Should boxers who test positive for illegal drugs be allowed into IBHOF?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Should boxers who are either suspected of or caught using PEDs be admitted into the IBHOF?

James Toney

Roy Jones Jr

Antonio Tarver

Erik Morales

Vitali Klitschko (amateurs)

Manny Pacquiao

Fixed.

And yes, I think they all should. Absolutely.

[The Hammer]

Alexander Povetkin

Andrezj Fonfara

Mariusz Wach

Anton Novikov

All Hall of Famers because Ruskies are special!

None of those will go into the IBHOF anyway.

Neither will Mickey Bey, Andre Berto, Lamont PEderson, J'Leon Love, Guillermo Jones, Ali Adams, Larry Olubamiwo, Orlando Salido or Dillian Whyte.

[Robbie Barrett]

Floyd DIDN'T have a TUE when he got that IV.

Floyd was fortunate to get USADA to throw this under the rug and save Floyd's Arse! Well, it didn't come cheap. Floyd's reps paid USADA well. Real well!

While Floyd was allowed to get an IV, USADA was going around other organizations telling them that they could no longer rehydrate by way of an IV because its banned. Yes, even if they need to rehydrate 10-15-20lbs ..... Floyd had to rehydrate just 1-2lbs and needed an IV.

Retroactive TUE do you know what that means? I'm sure you do. UFC adopted the USADA drug testing policy, boxing hasn't. Boxers are free to rehydrate by IV with no punishment by the commissions. It's the VOLUNTARY testing by USADA/VADA which bans it. Mayweather followed their rules and was given a TUE, the ****** Pac fans got all confused and thought he/they didn't follow the rules.

[Pigeons]

None of those guys are hall of famers regardless of drug use.

None of those will go into the IBHOF anyway.

Neither will Mickey Bey, Andre Berto, Lamont PEderson, J'Leon Love, Guillermo Jones, Ali Adams, Larry Olubamiwo, Orlando Salido or Dillian Whyte.

Hall of Fame!

Cucks! The lot of ya!

[Weltschmerz]

Especially Jones Jr and Toney ought to be condemned more than they do -- but media hesitate to do it because they are American boxing icons, especially Jones Jr. You hardly ever hear his name mentioned along with his dope cheating.

[Derranged]

Hall of Fame!
Cucks! The lot of ya!

[Derranged]

Its getting late and Pigeons seems a little cranky.

[ADP02]

Yawnnnnn..... go check WADA's rule book that existed well before this fight was made. Pay special attention to the part about retroactive TUE's. And even Hauser admits nothing was thrown under the rug since USADA was with him well before the IV. By the way, IV's are not taken to manipulate urine tests. There's a specific gravity test to make sure the sample isn't too diluted. Since you have been so interested in this topic, I'm sure you know by now that he was only responsible for a urine test on May 1st, not a blood test.

So it's pretty ****** for you to keep talking about him trying to manipulate his blood test....when the blood test was given over 24 hours later.

DCO was there but as I keep on telling you, Floyd delayed giving the sample by 6 hours. That could have made all the difference right there.
Was going to bet on a basketball game legit, legal process and reason to delay producing a urine sample? NO!!!! Yet that was acceptable for only one guy and his name was FLoyd Mayweather!!!

When given an IV the urine can still have an acceptable specific gravity.



Floyd was NOT dehydrated to the point of requiring an IV.

He weighed 146 + drank sufficiently enough to be close to FULLY rehydrated. As we saw, Fluid was able to drink fluids orally. Once you are CLOSE TO or FULLY REHYDRATED then you do NOT need an IV.

Now if we had no information, cool, but we have loads of information. Floyd lied and said dehydration was due to giving blood and urine but if you go back to 2011, Floyd and his fans would have called that BS:

"Giving blood doesnt make you weak, not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak" --- Floyd Mayweather of 2011

"Giving blood and urine contributed to my dehydration (to the point that I had to get an IV)" --- Floyd Mayweather of 2015


Also, just like GloabalDRo, USADA now confirms WADA's clarification:
"Also, WADA clarified “the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild re-hydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature.”

Dehydrated due to blood and urine? Read above. Even Floyd and his fans laughed at that in 2011.
Dehydrated due to exercises/training? Not a good reason too!!!



Finally, as I pointed out, USADA in 2015 made the rounds telling athletes for certain organizations that they cannot rehydrate after the weigh-in by way of an IV because its banned and not acceptable even though they need to rehydrate 5-10-15-20+ lbs .... Floyd was rock stable with his weight and you are telling me that he required an IV for something that WADA, USADA, studies state that otherwise?

Well for USADA, Floyd is the exception! All he has to do is ask 3 weeks after the fact and he will get it.

[ADP02]

Retroactive TUE do you know what that means? I'm sure you do. UFC adopted the USADA drug testing policy, boxing hasn't. Boxers are free to rehydrate by IV with no punishment by the commissions. It's the VOLUNTARY testing by USADA/VADA which bans it. Mayweather followed their rules and was given a TUE, the ****** Pac fans got all confused and thought he/they didn't follow the rules.

Nope you are all confused trying to protect Floyd.

Go show me of another person who says its BS that giving blood drains you in 2011 then in 2015 saying it contributed to his dehydration?

That should be enough right there to call all that BS, right?
But lets continue:
Giving urine contributed to my dehydration" - Floyd What? That is a complete lie!!!

So the above should be enough for most but there is a lot more. Floyd's weight was rock stable. There is a lot more but you know all that.

Floyd followed the rules? Floyd was allowed to delay giving his sample for 6 hours. That's OK? Nope! Especially if it includes going to bet on the basketball game after the weighin.

Floyd used a banned method without having a TUE. USADA, who Floyd's reps pay off, handed it to Floyd 3 weeks AFTER the fact. While its already crazy on its own but with knowing that Floyd admits to making weight EASILY for a decade including the fight that he required an IV ....

Yet you still believe Floyd required an IV ...

[wladavit]

Boxers who tested positive for PEDs should be banned and not make it into the HOF.