Pound 4 Pound List

[psychopath]

Here's MAXBOXING's P4P list after that Jones lost.

1.BERNARD HOPKINS - 44-2-1 (32)
2.FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. - 32-0 (21)
3.ANTONIO TARVER - 22-2 (18)
4.ERIK MORALES - 47-1 (34)
5.MANNY PACQUIAO - 38-2-2 (29)
6.WINKY WRIGHT - 47-3 (25).
7.DIEGO CORRALES - 39-2 (32)
8.OSCAR DE LA HOYA - 36-3 (29)
9.JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ - 43-2-1 (33)
10.JAMES TONEY - 68-4-2 (43)

The next ten

Rafael Marquez
Cory Spinks
Kostya Tszyu
Shane Mosley
Marco Antonio Barrera
Joel Casamayor
Ricardo Mayorga
Sharmba Mitchell
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Joe Calzaghe

If you want to see the whole write up here's the link:



Hey people don't you ever BASH me or CURSE me for this it's not my list I'm just sharing it with you so we can discuss it.

[grayfist]

No bashing and no dissing that list. I just have my own:

1. Hopkins
2. Mayweather
3. Morales- He's the most active p4p fighter
4. Tzyu- He is No.1 in the most talent-filled division and has beaten 6 of his 10 best contenders.
5. Corrales
6. Tarver
7. Pacquiao- relegated due to inactivity
8. Winky Wright
9. Oscar De la Hoya
10.Rafael Marquez
++++++++++++++

11. Cory Spinks
12. Pongsaklek Wongjongkam
13. Juan Manuel Marquez
14. Ricardo Mayorga
15. Joel Casamayor

[psychopath]

No bashing and no dissing that list. I just have my own:

1. Hopkins
2. Mayweather
3. Morales- He's the most active p4p fighter
4. Tzyu- He is No.1 in the most talent-filled division and has beaten 6 of his 10 best contenders.
5. Corrales
6. Tarver
7. Pacquiao- relegated due to inactivity
8. Winky Wright
9. Oscar De la Hoya
10.Rafael Marquez
++++++++++++++

11. Cory Spinks
12. Pongsaklek Wongjongkam
13. Juan Manuel Marquez
14. Ricardo Mayorga
15. Joel Casamayor

Hey that's realistically more acceptable to me than the MAX's original list.
Let's wait and see for the other guys to makle their own list.

[grayfist]

Hey that's realistically more acceptable to me than the MAX's original list.
Let's wait and see for the other guys to makle their own list.

Good to note that you agree! Sure, let's wait and see the others'...

[techn9ne]

i believe you guys left out Baby Joe Mesi

[psychopath]

i believe you guys left out Baby Joe Mesi

Hey Bro, make your own list so we can compare it.

[psychopath]

Good to note that you agree! Sure, let's wait and see the others'...

There's no reason for me to disagree Bro. everybody in that list are all good fighters. But I can't agree to you more when you put Rafael up in the top ten and put Juan below . . . Rafael is more exciting fighter than his brother, not to mention his flexibilty and agility to change his tactics depending on what his opponent brings up in the ring.

[LuKahnLi]

LuKahnLi's P4P

Way I measure P4P is the quality and recency of the fighter's last five fights. I don't rank fighters who have been inactive for over a year.

1-Bernard Hopkins - He is the man.
2-Floyd Mayweather - He could be the man, if takes a meaningful fight before the year is up.
3-Erik Morales - He could be the man if he beats Barrera decisively in November.
4-Manny Pacquaio - He could also be the man, if he rematches Marquez and beats him decisively or takes some other meaningful fight.
5-Antonio Tarver - If he got off his ass and took a fight Glenn Johnson, he could be the man.
6-Diego Corrales - If he gets another meaningful fight by Year's end, he could be the man.
7-Winky Wright - If he beats Shane Mosely again and scored wins over someone of Ouma's calibre......he could be the man.
8-James Toney - If he got more active and beat a top heavyweight......he could be the man.
9-Rafael Marquez - IF he unifies or scores some other good wins, he could be the man.....if the man or other fighters who could be the man slip up somehow.
10-Jose Luis Castillo - see above.


Missing the cut-
Felix Trinidad - He is back. but not on the list yet.

Kassim Ouma - He has beaten every credible 154 lber out there.....except Wright or Mosely. Therin lies the reason he is not on the list.

[grayfist]

i believe you guys left out Baby Joe Mesi

!!! LOL!!! Joe Mesi, Pound for Pound!!! LOL!!! That's a good one!!!

[grayfist]

There's no reason for me to disagree Bro. everybody in that list are all good fighters. But I can't agree to you more when you put Rafael up in the top ten and put Juan below . . . Rafael is more exciting fighter than his brother, not to mention his flexibilty and agility to change his tactics depending on what his opponent brings up in the ring.

Thanks,pal There are even some who would argue that the younger Marquez is a much better fighter; and failing to prove that, are sure that at least he's the more exciting one. I suspect that he has better one-punch power than his elder brother in the way he moves his feet and thus gets better leverage. The younger Marquez also had better quality opposition and has trounced everyone he faced decisively. The way he took the crown from a champion who until their meeting was widely considered the best in his class ( p4p in some lists), and then defending it against a similar fella to prove that his first victory was not a fluke...!JMM has never met anyone approaching p4p quality except Pacman. I'd even venture to say that the more interesting contest would be Pacman-Rafael, down the road, if their roads cross, which is a good possibility in that Marquez can go up to feather as he grows older, while Pac is at his best, and shall continue to be at his best, at featherweight/ jr. feather in the next couple of years. I don't agree with Pac going up to jr. light in that span of time atall! That's too much too soon! Besides, we've seen in recent occassions how much damage going up in weight too soon can do to even the best fighters.