Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser on Rejecting Crawford: I Don't Like His Style!

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

People don't give Floyd the credit because he's been accused of ducking the big challenges for damn near a decade. All the while Pac took on huge challenges, won most, lost some...so yea, he's paid his dues more. One is a businessman first, the other a warrior and as a result, they're treated differently.

Floyd ducking was a bit overstated, margarita, cotto, paul Williams is pretty much who they say he ducked

Pac ducked Mark 2 sharp Johnson, Zahir Raheem, Nate Campbell, Rafael Márquez and a few more... also ducked a lot of WWs since moving up. (im still not sold on Bradley as a top WW) but it was still 2 good wins. cotto was a decent win too. De la hoya (lol), Hatton was a cool win...

Pac man did not take on all challenges like people like to throw out there, hes an ATG and a warrior but this Floyd ducking while Pac man took on every hard fight nonsense is just crazy. lets not forget he also fought algeiri and rios too while there were other WWs available, we know it was bob arums doing but hey its still on him... Shane mosely was too big for him at one point according to roach, then after Floyd beat him and he looked like lesser of a fighter he all of a sudden wasn't too big. these are things I don't harp on because all boxers have their sht with them but come on man!

[b Murphington]

People don't give Floyd the credit because he's been accused of ducking the big challenges for damn near a decade. All the while Pac took on huge challenges, won most, lost some...so yea, he's paid his dues more. One is a businessman first, the other a warrior and as a result, they're treated differently.

LOL. You still got nothing to say about Pacquiao fighting Rios or any of the other fighters I mentioned. You can't defend that. I'm not saying that Pacquiao isn't a ATG. He is. But so is Mayweather. And if people can't see that, then they DKSAB.

I'm not denying that Floyd didn't duck. He did. I admit that. But I also know that Pac ducks and cherry picks as well. As a matter of fact, a lot of his greatest wins were against guys who were tailor-made for him. You know. The face first brawlers who didn't learn defense.

[b Murphington]

I just can't stand the bull**** I see on here. Posters creating double standards for boxers. Choosing to ignore the fact that Pac cherry picks and ducks, then calling out Mayweather for it.

[b Murphington]

I got another one for all you. Pacquiao's signature win. The win that put him on the map. The win that made him a star, was a cherry pick.

He fought a 35 year old, weight drained Oscar. Fought him at a weight Oscar hasn't weighed in years. Oscar looked like a skeleton in there.

Talk to Casuals or pacstains and they'll tell you Pacquiao jumped up in weight and took on an ATG, but real fans know the truth.

I just discredited Pac's greatest win.

[madsweeney]

LOL. You still got nothing to say about Pacquiao fighting Rios or any of the other fighters I mentioned. You can't defend that. I'm not saying that Pacquiao isn't a ATG. He is. But so is Mayweather. And if people can't see that, then they DKSAB.

I'm not denying that Floyd didn't duck. He did. I admit that. But I also know that Pac ducks and cherry picks as well. As a matter of fact, a lot of his greatest wins were against guys who were tailor-made for him. You know. The face first brawlers who didn't learn defense.

Rios was a comeback fight after a bad KO, pass given
Algieri - don't know wtf was there. Would have been something if it was at 140
Bradley 3 - solid fight from a ranking perspective, supposed to be retirement fight.

Never said Mayweather wasn't an ATG, you guys asked why Pac gets passes for fights like this (which I disagree with, he gets criticized just as much as Mayweather IMO) and I stated my opinion.

[b Murphington]

Rios was a comeback fight after a bad KO, pass given
Algieri - don't know wtf was there. Would have been something if it was at 140
Bradley 3 - solid fight from a ranking perspective, supposed to be retirement fight.

Never said Mayweather wasn't an ATG, you guys asked why Pac gets passes for fights like this (which I disagree with, he gets criticized just as much as Mayweather IMO) and I stated my opinion.

I feel like Pacquiao does get a lot more passes than Mayweather. And you can put a spin on any of Pacquiao's picks to go in his favor. A lot of people put spins on Mayweather's picks to make is seem like he's cherry picking.

Like you saying Bradley 3 is okay since it's his retirement fight. Okay, so what about Mayweather fighting Berto? That's his retirement fight, it should be okay. But everyone shamed Floyd for fighting Berto, a lot more than Pacquiao did for fighting Bradley.

Admittedly, Berto was a much, much worse pick than Bradley, but the same principle applies.

They were both bad picks, but people only see things from a perspective that benefit the fighters they like, and discredits the fighters they hate.

[Francis M.]

Give Pac a break, Arum has never protected his fighters from big fights as long as it makes sense. He will most likely give crawford the pac fight after milking one more fight with PAC.

[Francis M.]

I know it's Kont'z talking but I have a feeling that Arum wants to see PAC fight one more time to make sure PAC dipped enough and make sure Crawford wins.

[madsweeney]

Floyd ducking was a bit overstated, margarita, cotto, paul Williams is pretty much who they say he ducked

Pac ducked Mark 2 sharp Johnson, Zahir Raheem, Nate Campbell, Rafael Márquez and a few more... also ducked a lot of WWs since moving up. (im still not sold on Bradley as a top WW) but it was still 2 good wins. cotto was a decent win too. De la hoya (lol), Hatton was a cool win...

Pac man did not take on all challenges like people like to throw out there, hes an ATG and a warrior but this Floyd ducking while Pac man took on every hard fight nonsense is just crazy. lets not forget he also fought algeiri and rios too while there were other WWs available, we know it was bob arums doing but hey its still on him... Shane mosely was too big for him at one point according to roach, then after Floyd beat him and he looked like lesser of a fighter he all of a sudden wasn't too big. these are things I don't harp on because all boxers have their sht with them but come on man!

From your list, only Campbell has some merit and even then, he was passed to take on DLH. Raheem was a division above pac (who was 1 fight into his) and immediately lost after beating Morales. Rafa was never in the smae division as pac and Pac took on his bigger, better brother multiple times. Mark Johnson probably would have happened if Pac stayed at that weight instead of jumping 2 weight-classes after his loss.

In all honesty, who was he criticized for not fighting @ ww besides floyd? Since
09 he fought pretty much everyone that was ranked at WW until this most recent crop within the past 1-2 years. Mosley was the biggest criticism and we all know that was moot since Floyd and Pac showed Mosley was way gone.

[Spoon23]

Arum didn't even bother pushing for the Crawford fight because of the running Terence did in the Postol fight. It was a boring spectacle.

It would be hilarious to see an old out of prime fighter chase a young big prime fighter.

We've seen it before in the Mosley/Pac fight. Both got booed in the fight and you could see Pac getting embarrassed by it and kept motioning Mosley to fight. Pac was forced to chase him despite a sprained ankle.

Good points.

Boxing is firstly a sport, but it needs to be ppv worthy of an entertainment. Watching a boxer chase another for 12 rounds ain't what boxing fans want to see. Mosely kept on moving away from Pac resulting to a lopsided unanimous decision for Pac. Pac won, but that fight was disappointing too watch.

It takes 2 to tango. Vargas will tango.