If Golovkin won the WBO this year, would Alvarez be relevant?

[HeroBando]

I can type in Spanish too if you want? what's your capacity?

Why would I want that? This board is in English. Learn that first, dumbfcuk

[therealpugilist]

Saunders got a 1.5m offer so probably not. Both Saunders and #1 contender concede Ggg is the best MW, that's undisputed.

the only thing undisputed is k2 is wasting this man's best years fighting nobodies

[HWChampion]

so you really believe brook was the only one willing to fight this guy....a welterweight?

they probably expect to pay guys like BJS, Degale, Lara, etc what they are paying no names like Monroe and wade....they are not gonna take scraps....this is prizefighting and top ten, especially top 5 guys want the pay to reflect their status

its common sense.

k2 and hbo are inflating his record until the canelo fight materializes, its obvious

1) fights ww next , soon as he gets wbc belt and defends against no name prior
2) said he wants to unify the belts translation: he wont move up if Canelo cant be made


im just being realistic.....from here on it will be unranked opponents and they can rely on the "they ducking doe" and "they pricing themselves out doe" excuse because casual boxing fans are gullible and hbo are responsible for keep the hype train moving


k2 is wasting this man's prime

Lets go down the list:

Canelo: 154 fighting liam smith!
Smith: ^^^
Jacobs: Mora/wants 18 months according to him.
Mora: ^^^
Saunders: He already had rejected a fight is looking for canelo undercard.
Eubank: His father priced him out.
Lara: Lara didn't approach his managment to create a a fight. only after the brook fight was announced did he tweet golovkin. Thats hardly intiating talks now is it! furthermore Di bella cited "Tv Problems" for lara and jacobs.
Andy Lee: is MIA and not IMO reputable name in terms of money for GG to come over the atlantic.
Quillin: 168
Andrade: focused on 154 and shotime fighter would have been extremely tought to make considering his last win was such a great performance. His management would be jumping the gun.
The other 154's: majority of the top ranked ones the jacksons ands and the charlos. all have either mandatory fights or their respective signed bouts coming up.
Lemule: already beat.
N'dam: Olympics

Kell Brook: Available, fight with vargas fell through due to brexit. Good draw in the UK. etc. Viable money fight rather than sit out september.

If Genna wasn't poised to fight Eubank in the UK and all the talk about him fighting over here. Kell would have never been considered. But overtly as he's a draw and a good fighter K2 saw him as a viable option. I hope that straightens things out for you.

[HeroBando]

no thats not....undisputed is determined in the ring and not message boards, or board rooms

there is a dispute if you havent fought the best and looking at the top 5 middleweights, he hasnt fought any of them to be considered undisputed

Lemiuex i think was top 5 so thats one and for the ibf...he didnt fight for the wbc or the wba....most times a belt is vacated you still have to fight for it

this will be the most hollow "undisputed" champion in the history of the sport.

Quite the opposite. If champs give up their belts in fear, and remaining top contenders admit he's the best, that's undisputed in the most literal sense.

[therealpugilist]

Lets go down the list:

Canelo: 154 fighting liam smith!
Smith: ^^^
Jacobs: Mora/wants 18 months according to him.
Mora: ^^^
Saunders: He already had rejected a fight is looking for canelo undercard.
Eubank: His father priced him out.
Lara: Lara didn't approach his managment to create a a fight. only after the brook fight was announced did he tweet golovkin. Thats hardly intiating talks now is it! furthermore Di bella cited "Tv Problems" for lara and jacobs.
Andy Lee: is MIA and not IMO reputable name in terms of money for GG to come over the atlantic.
Quillin: 168
Andrade: focused on 154 and shotime fighter would have been extremely tought to make considering his last win was such a great performance. His management would be jumping the gun.
The other 154's: majority of the top ranked ones the jacksons ands and the charlos. all have either mandatory fights or their respective signed bouts coming up.
Lemule: already beat.
N'dam: Olympics

Kell Brook: Available, fight with vargas fell through due to brexit. Good draw in the UK. etc. Viable money fight rather than sit out september.

If Genna wasn't poised to fight Eubank in the UK and all the talk about him fighting over here. Kell would have never been considered. But overtly as he's a draw and a good fighter K2 saw him as a viable option. I hope that straightens things out for you.

154-168 has over 30 world rated, world class fighters.....there is no excuse

you cant get 1 out of 30....thats bull crap and im not that gullible...i been around the sport and watching boxing too long and have seen greater fighters be avoided to believe everyone is afraid of this guy

it is what it is...k2 is doing a great job promoting and hbo is doing a great job keeping the hypetrain alive....but with each fight they dont fight top fighters, they are being exposed for what I said it was 3 years ago....they are hyping him up and inflating his record until they cash out against a big star like canelo

[therealpugilist]

Quite the opposite. If champs give up their belts in fear, and remaining top contenders admit he's the best, that's undisputed in the most literal sense.

keep living in fantasyland

you dont get credit for fights that dont happen....thats like saying Pryor beat leonard because many believe he ducked him


the best is determined in the ring

keep fighting the good fight bro......your opinion is not facts and the facts are champions are made in the ring

[HeroBando]

keep living in fantasyland

you dont get credit for fights that dont happen....thats like saying Pryor beat leonard because many believe he ducked him


the best is determined in the ring

keep fighting the good fight bro......your opinion is not facts and the facts are champions are made in the ring

Feel free to look up undisputed in the dictionary, it's a fit.

[_Maxi]

For boxing as a sport it's the biggest fight to be made. It's not Mayweather-Pacquiao but it can make 1 million PPVs. Which other fight is close to be that big?

Now in terms of GGG being the best MW, I don't think it's relevant, we all know he is.

[Lester Tutor]

Now in terms of GGG being the best MW, I don't think it's relevant, we all know he is.

Is Alvarez the best "Middleweight?" If not, again I ask, is Alvarez relevant when most of the boxing community says he's not a Middleweight. There's a place called 168 after or when the WBO is taken!

[_Maxi]

Is Alvarez the best "Middleweight?" If not, again I ask, is Alvarez relevant when most of the boxing community says he's not a Middleweight. There's a place called 168 after or when the WBO is taken!

Accoding to you three months ago Alvarez would be the best fight on GGG's resume and now it's irrelevant? Alvarez is overrated and would get stopped by GGG at 160. But it's the biggest fight in boxing in $$ terms, why wouldn't you want it to happen?