Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez vs. Liam Smith Finalized at 154, 9/17 on PPV

[j0zef]

No that's not a direct quote from anyone that's Dan Rafael trying interpret the reason you fool. Here is a quote from his promoter

"Both guys agreed to change the weight to 155. If it would have been a title fight I think Canelo would have made 154. But it's not and everybody is happy with the arrangement that was made."

Point is Canelo didn't miss weight. He negotiated a 1 pound increase early in the week because it was a non title fight.

Kid, you're in absolute denial.

[Mitchell Kane]

No he brought this criticism by agreeing to Cotto's demand that the 160 strap be on the line in their fight. Cotto used it for negotiation leverage and it hurt both guys. That I agree on. If Cotto vacated the belt after he beat Sergio and fought Canelo his next fight instead of the Top Rank/Roc Nation drama and fighting a voluntary fight against Geale then Cotto and Canelo would neither of had that belt or it be on the line in their fight and nobody is talking either as being Middleweights when both clearly aren't. Dumping the belt and going back to 154 will fix a lot of that.

It won't fix it because the Golovkin fight has been talked about for too long...and Canelo's own words and actions fed into the Golovkin talk.

Moving down now, and for this reason, only hurts his cause.

And we don't even know how long he can actually stay at 154.

[Nightfall]

he ducked lil G for this.

[bigdunny1]

Again, wrong. the "600k" for Khanelo wasn't substantiated by anyone except for Oscar's dreams. Virtually (multiple links in article) agrees that 460k is the avg figure.

And Canelo doesn't own ****. Cotto-Canelo drew 900k, NOT Canelo. And giving Ginger credit for Floyd? Joke.

Canelo owns a 350K PPV with Lara (while making 6m, which was great) and a 460K PPV with Khan (while making 15-20m, which was a huge flop).

Once again you are wrong the 460k figure has been debunked by PPV experts like mark taffet and rival promoters who all said based on the Dish numbers the fight did almost 600k proving that Kevin Iole who provided that figure lied.

As for ...375 crazy, 460 wrong because impossible to know cable # on Wednesday, and Oscar closer than anyone.

— Mark Taffet (@MarkTaffetMedia)

145k buys thru Directv (~26% market share) extrapolates to 560k buys total. Directv is only reliable number this early. What am I missing?

— Nicole Duva (@nicoleduva)

The same source that said GGG did 150k said Canelo/Khan did 600k. You know the same guy who said 150K that you quote when your panties are in a bunch because idiots quote the phony 97k figure. I get it when he talks about GGG's numbers they are correct but he's lying when he talks about Canelo doing 600k? LMAO

[SkillspayBills]

I won't mind if he uses it to get into the mix with the other titleholders at 154.

[Mike Rotch]

Haha haha haha,you can't make this **** up. Literally picks the weakest champ at 154,and decides to put it on ppv. This **** doesn't break 200k buys.

All the other champs are Haymon, no? What was he to do?

[Tomjas]

I won't mind if he uses it to get into the mix with the other titleholders at 154.

They were all available right now but GBP chose BY FAR the weakest

Time to wake up and smell the coffee - Canelo is a protected fighter

[The Smash]

Any word in who will be fighting on the undercard?

[soul_survivor]

He is simply cutting 1 pound. The same 1 pound that his trainers and promoter have been saying for months that Canelo can do if it's for a 154 title fight. If not why the F does he need to cut that last pound? Just last year he weighed 154.5 in a non title fight against Kirkland and has NOT looked drained at any of weighin's. Only an idiot thinks he's a middleweight or moving down a lot of weight. He is simply choosing to cut 1 pound to shut up all the GGG fools calling him a middleweight. He's never weighed 160 or fought a 160 fighter. He's been fighting at 155 against other Jr Middleweights in NON title fights. Until Cotto dragged a middleweight title into the picture.

You act like he's dropping 8 pounds or something in danger of missing weight. Bro it's 1 pound! LMAO

I'm not saying he will miss the weight, I'm just saying, what if he does? It wouldn't be the first time and certainly not the last. And if Canelo cares so much about that belt then why would he move back up o middleweight and fight GGG?

none of this is making any sense.

[BlakBread904]

No that's not a direct quote from anyone that's Dan Rafael trying interpret the reason you fool. Here is a quote from his promoter

"Both guys agreed to change the weight to 155. If it would have been a title fight I think Canelo would have made 154. But it's not and everybody is happy with the arrangement that was made."

Point is Canelo didn't miss weight. He negotiated a 1 pound increase early in the week because it was a non title fight.

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