JCC says Kova Has To Prove Himself Against Ward, his May p4p rank list

[daggum]

Naw bro


Mayweather didnt get top 5 p4p until he beat Corrales and even then i think Corrales was rated higher and actually the favorite before he whitewashed him.


he didnt get top 3-5 until roy jones lost, DLH fell off in 04, and Hopkins losing to taylor in 05

by 05 he already had hall of fame credentials....3 weight champ...2 lineal, a dozen defenses

that's not true. they put him at #2. then they dropped him because he was fighting bums but my point still stands. they put him at #2 because of skills. He actually started rising more and more the weaker his comp got after castillo. sad but the if he keeps winning mentality paid off and level of comp didn't matter at all.

[daggum]

look at the way the otehr guys lost their p4p rankings. hopkins fought taylor the clear #1 challenger. jones fought tarver the clear #1 challenger. hoya just fought everyone. meanwhile did floyd fight the #1 guy at 135, 140, or 147? not really unless you count baldomir who was a flash in the pan journeyman. marg was the real threat who had been dominating there. Then the threat was cotto...nope. Then it was pac....nope. maybe he would have beat them but he held onto his ranking by not fighting the up and coming guys unlike guys like jones, hoya, and hopkins.

[therealpugilist]

that's not true. they put him at #2. then they dropped him because he was fighting bums but my point still stands. they put him at #2 because of skills. He actually started rising more and more the weaker his comp got after castillo. sad but the if he keeps winning mentality paid off and level of comp didn't matter at all.

was this around the time Oscar lost to Tito by controversial decision?

I do remember floyd being lower top ten in the early 2000s maybe even 5


great find man

I used to collect ring ****inze back then...I that he was too high back then considering he was young, an upstart and guys like ODLH, Hopkins and trinidad were more established

I agree that selection was based on talent


Im sure he wasnt number 2 very long because Hopkins and Jones were 1 and 2 in the early 2000s

[M Bison]

Chavez knows how genuinely good Golovkin is, I am surprised he has gave Ward that much credit I wouldn't even put Ward in the top 10.

[M Bison]

look at the way the otehr guys lost their p4p rankings. hopkins fought taylor the clear #1 challenger. jones fought tarver the clear #1 challenger. hoya just fought everyone. meanwhile did floyd fight the #1 guy at 135, 140, or 147? not really unless you count baldomir who was a flash in the pan journeyman. marg was the real threat who had been dominating there. Then the threat was cotto...nope. Then it was pac....nope. maybe he would have beat them but he held onto his ranking by not fighting the up and coming guys unlike guys like jones, hoya, and hopkins.

Preaching the truth bro

[j0zef]

how was dawson a shadow? because he had one loss. lmao i see you are one of those people.

Dawson was spiraling out of the control before and after the Ward fight. It's widely documented. Even boxrec makes a mention of it:

In an interview with Real Combat Media in Atlantic City less than a week before this fight, Iceman John Scully, former principal trainer of Chad Dawson, noted there were serious training issues, weight loss concerns and behavior problems dealing with Chad in the Las Vegas camp while he was attempting to train Dawson for Andre Ward, with Dawson not listening to his trainer or following his instructions. Scully made up his mind to leave Dawson for good after the Ward bout and set up a new gym in Florida, and did not speak to Chad again.[3]

After losing to Ward and then Stevenson, Dawson failed to make weight against a journeyman, coming in at 182 lbs, 7 pounds overweight. After this match, he lost to Tommy, who was coming off 3 recent losses.

[jmrf4435]

LOL kovalev has a very solid resume and also beat paccal twice(dominated) who is a great fighter himself.

I would love to see ward-Pascal

[TheUnbiased]

Legend....