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    Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post

    So i was right he worked with Ortega not Memo. Go blame Ortega. What's your next spin, that Memo told Ortega what to give him?

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      If i were Bute i would be really mad. Bute and Jack both have a cheater in their corner but only one of them gets caught.

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        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
        So i was right he worked with Ortega not Memo. Go blame Ortega. What's your next spin, that Memo told Ortega what to give him?
        I see you completely ignored the part where Ortega works for Heredia, no surprise.

        You never answered the question, why are you so upset about Heredia's involvement?

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          Originally posted by elgu View Post
          If i were Bute i would be really mad. Bute and Jack both have a cheater in their corner but only one of them gets caught.
          The cheater is the fighter who takes illegal substances. Don't try and deflect blame it's solely on the fighter.

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            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            The cheater is the fighter who takes illegal substances. Don't try and deflect blame it's solely on the fighter.
            If a fighter works with Memo he is automatically guilty. Why else would you associate with a guy that is known for PED's. If you can't see that there's nothing I can do to help you. Keep defending the cheats when it's convenient. The average fan knows the simple truth. If you employ Memo you are a cheat.

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              Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
              I see you completely ignored the part where Ortega works for Heredia, no surprise.

              You never answered the question, why are you so upset about Heredia's involvement?
              Ortega working for Heredia isn't evidence that Heredia had any involvement with Bute's preparation. Keep grasping at straws.

              It's pretty clear what your agenda is. You're trying make Heredia and all the fighters he trains guilty by association. The only problem is that you have zero evidence Heredia was involved.

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                Originally posted by elgu View Post
                If a fighter works with Memo he is automatically guilty. Why else would you associate with a guy that is known for PED's. If you can't see that there's nothing I can do to help you. Keep defending the cheats when it's convenient. The average fan knows the simple truth. If you employ Memo you are a cheat.
                All fighters that work with Conte must be too then?

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                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                  All fighters that work with Conte must be too then?
                  Pretty much. Your catching on.

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                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                    Ortega working for Heredia isn't evidence that Heredia had any involvement with Bute's preparation. Keep grasping at straws.

                    It's pretty clear what your agenda is. You're trying make Heredia and all the fighters he trains guilty by association. The only problem is that you have zero evidence Heredia was involved.
                    Your dug into your little hole and not going to budge, that's ok.
                    Ortega working for Heredia, in the process of helping Bute is zero evidence that Heredia had any involvement? Yeah good luck trying to use your line of thought in court. If it turns out that Ortega was guilty of doing something, at the very least Heredia is guilty by association as it's his company and negligent in oversight of his employee. At most, he gave specific orders.

                    You've got a pretty clear agenda there yourself.

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                      Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
                      Your dug into your little hole and not going to budge, that's ok.
                      Ortega working for Heredia, in the process of helping Bute is zero evidence that Heredia had any involvement? Yeah good luck trying to use your line of thought in court. If it turns out that Ortega was guilty of doing something, at the very least Heredia is guilty by association as it's his company and negligent in oversight of his employee. At most, he gave specific orders.

                      You've got a pretty clear agenda there yourself.
                      Dude has been owned and he doesn't even know it.

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