Comments Thread For: Chavez Jr. Advises Canelo To Demand '158' For Golovkin Bout

[snoopy360]

Just get in the ring and fight wtf is the big deal. They will get paid an insane amount of money win or lose so I don't see the big deal. I guess greed before honor, its the new thing.

[Shadoww702]

158?
I'm sure GGG would jump at that opportunity. Canelo is not gonna budge from 155. At this point he may kill himself to make 154 just to prove a point and run as far as he can from GGG.

Both should jump at 158 if that's the offer.

[Shadoww702]

Just get in the ring and fight wtf is the big deal. They will get paid an insane amount of money win or lose so I don't see the big deal. I guess greed before honor, its the new thing.

Ain't gonna happen until the lawsuit is settled. GB doesn't even know if there contract is valid still on Canelo

[Nomadic]

That last paragraph is nonsense. Chavez agreed to fight GGG, but Golovkin realised he was going to be knocked out and ducked him.

So the newly dubbed Tyson has ducked two fighters now, Ward and Chavez. There goes the feared fighter title.

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

lmaooo bunch of ******* from mexico I tell you these guys have the size advantage and youth and trying to get an advantage over GGG who is probably only going to be good for another 2 years since he is older. GGG doesn't need canelo anymore he has the belt he needs to fight saunders or get that wba belt before moving up

[Can'tHoldMeBack]

Fighters in the same division demanding catchweights, smh. Thank you Mayweather for yet more positive influence in the sport of boxing.

What fighter in same division of Floyd did he demand a cw for? Y'all bring him up when stuff has nothing to do with him, let the dude stay in retirement

[Bronx2245]

Jr. is right about the demand. It should be 157-158. GGG should accept. This was the same CW Oscar demanded and B-Hop accepted! We all know what happened. GGG really needs Canelo NOW:

May 24, 2016:
Frank Lotierzo

In case you've missed it, with the absence of Floyd Mayweather from the current boxing scene, Canelo is the biggest draw in the sport. What constitutes a fighter being a big draw? Well, it's a simple deduction - said fighter announces who he's fighting and then the receipts are tabulated. Canelo fought a junior welterweight in his last bout as a heavy favorite and the fight was a moderate success financially, and that was despite the fact that there wasn't a single boxing observer who knew anything worth knowing about ring combat who gave Khan a snowball’s chance to win. Opposed to Golovkin, whose only PPV bout as the headliner against a legitimate and hard punching opponent in David Lemieux, ended up being a financial disaster, registering roughly 150,000 buys. That's fascinating! Fans and writers praise Golovkin as being the next great must-see fighter, yet they didn't turn out to see him fight a real opponent when they had to pay for it. And that's the reason why I'm tired of hearing writers and fans cry like a baby because Alvarez is ducking Golovkin.

[GGG Gloveking]

Why should 2 fighters in the same weight class fight at a catchweight? Ever. There are only 6 pounds between SWW and MW, and some people act like that is too much.

If Canelo doesnt feel comfortable fighting at 160, he needs to drop the extra pound and make 154.

[GGG Gloveking]

Jr. is right about the demand. It should be 157-158. GGG should accept. This was the same CW Oscar demanded and B-Hop accepted! We all know what happened. GGG really needs Canelo NOW:

May 24, 2016:
Frank Lotierzo

In case you've missed it, with the absence of Floyd Mayweather from the current boxing scene, Canelo is the biggest draw in the sport. What constitutes a fighter being a big draw? Well, it's a simple deduction - said fighter announces who he's fighting and then the receipts are tabulated. Canelo fought a junior welterweight in his last bout as a heavy favorite and the fight was a moderate success financially, and that was despite the fact that there wasn't a single boxing observer who knew anything worth knowing about ring combat who gave Khan a snowball’s chance to win. Opposed to Golovkin, whose only PPV bout as the headliner against a legitimate and hard punching opponent in David Lemieux, ended up being a financial disaster, registering roughly 150,000 buys. That's fascinating! Fans and writers praise Golovkin as being the next great must-see fighter, yet they didn't turn out to see him fight a real opponent when they had to pay for it. And that's the reason why I'm tired of hearing writers and fans cry like a baby because Alvarez is ducking Golovkin.

Is he saying that people were giving Lemieux a chance to win? Id like to see a comparison of the betting lines on the two fights. I can only imagine that the odds makers viewed both bouts as equally non competitive. Most people I spoke to gave Lemieux little to no chance of winning.

Edit: the numbers do not support Mr Lotierzo's assumption. A quick glance at the betting lines suggest that Alvarez-Khan was viewed as more competitive than Golovkin-Lemieux.

Golovkin: -1400
Lemieux: +1100

Alvarez: -500
Khan: +350

(both figures taken from Bloody Left Elbow)

[SteveM]

Chavez juust needs to stay relevant for a few more fights maybe thru 2018. They are not weight divisions apart if Chavez can come in at 168.
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SCENARIO
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Golovkin moves up to 168 end of 2017 without fighting Caneloass.
Canelo moves up to MW now that Golovkin has left.
in 2018 Canelo weighs in at 160 - a struggle but fights at 180
Canelo loses and his reputation takes a hit.
By 2018 Chavez has his **** together. He has a Chavez weight at 170 and drags up smaller fighters to fight him.
Finally the fight gets made between them at 170 and does huge PPV numbers