Comments Thread For: Saunders on Canelo: He Robbed Fans, An Absolute Little ****bag!

[JUNIABOY]

So Pac doesn't take a " fairly dangerous fight " without an advantage ?

Pac had already fought at 147, vs Hoya.

And let me guess, Pac is also a genuine JMW champ..... right ?

And despite Ariza/Roach being on public record stating that Manny is a natural JWW who can make 140 easy, and that he has to eat 6 meals a day including shakes at 3am/6am just to remain at welter..... it was perfectly acceptable to drag those JWW's up to 144 where Pac had a clear advantage..... right ?

Right, so..... manny-weight is fine, and gennady-weight is also fine..... but canelo-weight is abhorrent and completely unacceptable?

GTFOH fanboii

Because it was to defend WW belts...the glamour division...the money division. I'm not naive to think that he didn't make some fights for glory alone. Why go after JWW belts when you can defend your WW belt? Once again, you're grasping at straws. The world is not black & white...it's shades of gray. Aren't you even amazed that a small guy like Pac could be so solid at WW? Open your mind to possibilities. The natural JWW was tops at the WW division. Amazing stuff. Totally different from Canelo...who can't make 154 anymore...he has no where to run...why give him any shine for 155?...the guy should be at 160 if he can't make 154 anymore. GGG owns 160 & Canelo's got nowhere to go. Again, why not enjoy the ride.

[aboutfkntime]

Because it was to defend WW belts...the glamour division...the money division. I'm not naive to think that he didn't make some fights for glory alone. Why go after JWW belts when you can defend your WW belt? Once again, you're grasping at straws. The world is not black & white...it's shades of gray. Aren't you even amazed that a small guy like Pac could be so solid at WW? Open your mind to possibilities. The natural JWW was tops at the WW division. Amazing stuff. Totally different from Canelo...who can't make 154 anymore...he has no where to run...why give him any shine for 155?...the guy should be at 160 if he can't make 154 anymore. GGG owns 160 & Canelo's got nowhere to go. Again, why not enjoy the ride.

Bull**** !

Why lie ?

They were blatant cherry-picks, just like everyone said at the time.

Again, why lie kid ?

[JUNIABOY]

Bull**** !

Why lie ?

They were blatant cherry-picks, just like everyone said at the time.

Again, why lie kid ?

Troll, you don't even know what you're arguing for anymore. I already said that top fighters are bound to cherry pick...it's the nature of the business. And to be fair, Pac fought most of those jr WW's at a CW because, like I said, he wanted to defend his belt but accommodate the other fighter, or it was a stay active fight...with the exception of Rios, because that was a fight to test if he had anything left after the JMM KO. Look at the list: JMM3 was a trilogy fight against a career rival who was still acclimating to WW; we already talked about Rios; & Algieri was a stay active fight to wait for FMJ. Like I said before, cherry picks are bound to happen. It's not like I love them. And at the time, Pac needed to keep his record unblemished (despite the KO) if he truly desired the FMJ fight, which he did...& he eventually got. In principle, GGG never had to agree to Caneloweight because of the belt...so he vacated...that's fine...but if it turned out that he vacated so he can continue to campaign at 155, then that would be shameful. Like I said, Pac (or anybody else for that matter) never campaigned at a single CW...never. Why the insistence that this is okay?...that's up to you to decide. I'm thru trying to convince a troll about this. So, to make a point repetitive, the world is not black & white...we live in a world of gray.

[Chuckguy]

So Pac doesn't take a " fairly dangerous fight " without an advantage ?

Pac had already fought at 147, vs Hoya.

And let me guess, Pac is also a genuine JMW champ..... right ?

And despite Ariza/Roach being on public record stating that Manny is a natural JWW who can make 140 easy, and that he has to eat 6 meals a day including shakes at 3am/6am just to remain at welter..... it was perfectly acceptable to drag those JWW's up to 144 where Pac had a clear advantage..... right ?

Right, so..... manny-weight is fine, and gennady-weight is also fine..... but canelo-weight is abhorrent and completely unacceptable?

GTFOH fanboii

What Gennady weight are yiu talking about ?

[JUNIABOY]

What Gennady weight are yiu talking about ?

I think he's referring to the GGG standard: anybody from 154 to 168. Idk how he has it as a CW, but that's how his twisted mind works. To him, every single one of these guys are doing something wrong. Hard to figure out trolls...

[HeroBando]

What Gennady weight are yiu talking about ?

Don't sweat it, that guy is an idiot and a newcomer to the sport. Nobody in boxing lately has taken the risks like Pac.

[Chuckguy]

I think he's referring to the GGG standard: anybody from 154 to 168. Idk how he has it as a CW, but that's how his twisted mind works. To him, every single one of these guys are doing something wrong. Hard to figure out trolls...

Don't sweat it, that guy is an idiot and a newcomer to the sport. Nobody in boxing lately has taken the risks like Pac.

I find it funny that Sanchez said that 3 years ago and people are still holding him to it.

[PivotandRoll]

Don't sweat it, that guy is an idiot and a newcomer to the sport. Nobody in boxing lately has taken the risks like Pac.

Risks? Jesus Manny is faster than everyone he has ever got in the ring with him bar Floyd and I've seen him look bigger than Cotto at weign in's. He is an amazingly accomplished fighter but don't act like he wasn't getting paid heaps.

Now the more relevant topic would be People always writing off Manny's 145 catchweight with Cotto for Cotto's belt. That didn't matter right? Good so GGG should just fight Canelo at 155. It did matter? then one of Manny's best wins in his career is questioned

Have your pick.

[HeroBando]

Risks? Jesus Manny is faster than everyone he has ever got in the ring with him bar Floyd and I've seen him look bigger than Cotto at weign in's. He is an amazingly accomplished fighter but don't act like he wasn't getting paid heaps.

Now the more relevant topic would be People always writing off Manny's 145 catchweight with Cotto for Cotto's belt. That didn't matter right? Good so GGG should just fight Canelo at 155. It did matter? then one of Manny's best wins in his career is questioned

Have your pick.

Super dumb. Did none of this occur to you?

1. Pac wasn't demanding a CW to defend his welter belt vs Cotto, he was going up in weight, your standard CW.
2. He wasn't asking for 141 vs Cotto. 145 >> 155
3. That was Pac going for his 7the belt, 10 above his first, midget at welter. Unprecedented. This chump Canelo was holding a belt 1lb above his first championship weight, bigger than his mando fight night

[aboutfkntime]

Troll, you don't even know what you're arguing for anymore. I already said that top fighters are bound to cherry pick...it's the nature of the business. And to be fair, Pac fought most of those jr WW's at a CW because, like I said, he wanted to defend his belt but accommodate the other fighter, or it was a stay active fight...with the exception of Rios, because that was a fight to test if he had anything left after the JMM KO. Look at the list: JMM3 was a trilogy fight against a career rival who was still acclimating to WW; we already talked about Rios; & Algieri was a stay active fight to wait for FMJ. Like I said before, cherry picks are bound to happen. It's not like I love them. And at the time, Pac needed to keep his record unblemished (despite the KO) if he truly desired the FMJ fight, which he did...& he eventually got. In principle, GGG never had to agree to Caneloweight because of the belt...so he vacated...that's fine...but if it turned out that he vacated so he can continue to campaign at 155, then that would be shameful. Like I said, Pac (or anybody else for that matter) never campaigned at a single CW...never. Why the insistence that this is okay?...that's up to you to decide. I'm thru trying to convince a troll about this. So, to make a point repetitive, the world is not black & white...we live in a world of gray.

Nah, that's bull****, Pac did not have a title.

You are just making weak excuses to justify why your girlfriend is the exact same b1tch that Canelo is LMAO

I do not believe that an intelligent adult human being can justify having double standards..... so are you a child, or ****** ?