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    Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
    First off, you need to chill with the name calling and profanity. This is not the proper forum to be acting like a child. Man up and debate ir just shut up. Secondly, it was you that originally said the offer was $6M, then was $4M. You said that, not me. You said you called Saunders a punk for not accepting$6M, not me. Now all of a sudden, you're cussing at me calling me names for saying the same exact thing you said, and you provided several links for. Bro, you need your meds this morning or something...
    Calm down. I did think Saunders turned down gGG for at 1st $6 million and the. $4 million which would be CRAZY ****** for him to do. So I did call him a punk for it. But now we know it wasn't even have that offered. It was $1.5 million. So him fighting a couple cans and keeping the belt is probably worth more. He seems to think he's some HUGE PPV attraction. Hes not and frankly I don't think he's even really that good. He probably the 5th best MW. And the MW division is TERRIBLE.

    If you want to believe Saunders was offered more than DOUBLE what they paid Lemuix then who am I to argue...

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      I love boxing discussion and enjoy it, once I've filtered out the hate campaigns posted throughout most threads.
      To all the posters who talk boxing....Thank-you.
      Last edited by Reverb; 05-23-2016, 11:32 AM.

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        Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
        Who the hell is Billy Joe Saunders? Sounds like some redneck ***** supporter.



        edit.

        He's from the UK? LOL even worse.
        Hes a nobody. Who won his 1st major belt in a TERRIBLE, boring fight with LEE.

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          Saunders does he even have any appeal to anyone in the UK? I don't a single person who likes him.

          Hes just an over weight gypsy with an attitude problem, waiting to be knocked out.
          Last edited by bboy80; 05-23-2016, 11:41 AM.

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            Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
            Calm down. I did think Saunders turned down gGG for at 1st $6 million and the. $4 million which would be CRAZY ****** for him to do. So I did call him a punk for it. But now we know it wasn't even have that offered. It was $1.5 million. So him fighting a couple cans and keeping the belt is probably worth more. He seems to think he's some HUGE PPV attraction. Hes not and frankly I don't think he's even really that good. He probably the 5th best MW. And the MW division is TERRIBLE.

            If you want to believe Saunders was offered more than DOUBLE what they paid Lemuix then who am I to argue...
            I believe the offer of £2.2M was offered, which is twice the amount Lemieux was paid. You, by your own admission, believed an offer of 4x that amount was offered. The biggest difference is that you believe the word of Saunders, who waited about 3 months to dispute the widely reported figure, whereas I choose not to believe Mr Saunders amd his months late rebuttal.

            See, we can have a boxing discussion without you having to call me dip sht, FKN liar, no common sense and such

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              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
              I believe the offer of £2.2M was offered, which is twice the amount Lemieux was paid. You, by your own admission, believed an offer of 4x that amount was offered. The biggest difference is that you believe the word of Saunders, who waited about 3 months to dispute the widely reported figure, whereas I choose not to believe Mr Saunders amd his months late rebuttal.

              See, we can have a boxing discussion without you having to call me dip sht, FKN liar, no common sense and such
              Who knows really what they offered. Even $1.5 is too much money for a guy who just won his 1st major belt ever. And now acts like he all that. if he was offered that 2.2 then he's an idiot for turning it down. And your right he did wait for ever to even come out and say that. The sooner Saunders loses and goes away the better. I really believed the $4 million because all the media brought up was $4 million and they even asked Loeffler and he said it wouldn't be appropriate to talk about it. I think the $6 million was based off converting London to usd money. Ohh well they never fought and I doubt ever will.

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                Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                Who knows really what they offered. Even $1.5 is too much money for a guy who just won his 1st major belt ever. And now acts like he all that. if he was offered that 2.2 then he's an idiot for turning it down. And your right he did wait for ever to even come out and say that. The sooner Saunders loses and goes away the better. I really believed the $4 million because all the media brought up was $4 million and they even asked Loeffler and he said it wouldn't be appropriate to talk about it. I think the $6 million was based off converting London to usd money. Ohh well they never fought and I doubt ever will.
                I pretty much agree with everything you say here. I dont think Saunders is worth that kind if payday either, whether it was $3M or $1.5M. I believe K2 made a good faith offer, Id call it a generous one, in an attempt to get a unification bout. And like you said, he could lose that belt next time out and blow any potential payday against GGG. I also dont think, yet my fingers are crossed, that They Will ever fight.

                Now Im going to give you a little bit of flak. Youve been calling Loeffler cheap. For the sake of argument, lets say the offer was 'only' $1.5M. (I wish I had ONLY $1.5M...) Now we've both agreed that BJS is certainly not worth the amount he was offered. So we cant call Tom cheap for bidding beyond both our valuations. There is a difference between cheap and 'broke' lol. Cheap is Oscar offering 90-10 to GGG. Broke is Loeffler giving Lemieux $1.5M which was roughly 40%

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                  Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                  Pac only ever fought once at 144...and that was against JMM after JMM had moved up to the WW division. And a 144 CW against JMM makes more sense than Canelo trying to fight everyone at 155. Again, Pac only fought once at 144. It's like you're on a witch hunt.

                  You are full-of-it..... Algieri/Rios/Marquez.


                  Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                  ...and that was against JMM after JMM had moved up to the WW division. And a 144 CW against JMM makes more sense than Canelo trying to fight everyone at 155. Again, Pac only fought once at 144. It's like you're on a witch hunt.

                  Rubbish, Marquez was a lightweight.

                  How long have you been following this sport ?

                  That was only a few years back, how come you can't remember that ?

                  Immediately prior to announcing that fight, Alex Ariza stated that Pac's best weight is JWW and that he can still make 140 EASY..... so, what does Pac do?..... he drags the lightweight Marquez up to welter LMAO

                  Marquez is not a welter.

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                    Originally posted by AneesMoha View Post
                    Reason I said at 155 Canelo wins easy is because Saunders came in at 159.8 against Lee and looked like a zombie. if he came in at 155 he would be a corpse. At 160 I think Saunders has another gear and that's what caught Lee. Also I don't think Alvarez walks through Saunders like he did with Cotto and Khan. Might be the first time we see him fight off the back foot. Would also be interested to see what happens if he (Canelo) gets tagged when he throws that looping right and drops his left hand doing so.

                    Aah, at 155..... sorry you're right, no question.

                    And Canelo does the same to Golovkin at 155.

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                      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
                      You know, its funny you mention the story of the boy that cried wolf because it really mirrors this situation. Except Canelo is the boy and Golovkin the wolf.

                      It starts off with the boy claiming there is a wolf, or in this case, claiming he is a wolf. After Cotto fight, he says, Ill fight anyone right now. The townspeople (WBC) believed the boy and came to help by offering a voluntary defense.

                      The boy cries wolf again, even inviting the wolf into the ring claiming we dont F around (from behind the police). Once again, the townspeople come to help, and give the boy 2 weeks to negotiate with the wolf.

                      But finally, the boy's time is up, and he is face to face with the real wolf. He cries and he cries but no one comes to help. His only hope to avoid being eaten by the wolf is to throw his heavy belt and run fast as he can away from the Big Bad Wolf

                      I think you know much more about fairy-tales than you do about boxing.

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