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    #21
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with Alvarez afraid or worried about losing. I think it had to do with the frustration or limitation for what the A side wants for the limited time and the WBC must abide by its own rules. If Alvarez were the B side none of the theory about "worryness" would matter. It all about comfort vs mandatory demands and what Alvarez's camp and GBP feels for purses. That's all it is. It's more about feeling spoiled rather than cowardice.

    If Alvarez provides Saunders with a nice payday then Alvarez claims the WBO and we are back to square one.
    Could be, but it's always risk and reward... I didn't mean to imply cowardice (I don't think any top fighters are actually scared of each other) but the simple fact is that Saunders will be viewed as a much more likely win ... though of course it is possible that Saunders may also be easier to negotiate with. That said, who knows? There's no reason to suspect that BJS is gonna want to be bent over the negotiating table either - if he has the last quarter of the MW trinkets it would put him in quite a strong bargaining position.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 05-10-2016, 05:06 PM.

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      #22
      canelo might look bad but he'd win a decision. i doubt he'd need a robbery although he'd obviously get one anyway

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        #23
        Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
        canelo might look bad but he'd win a decision. i doubt he'd need a robbery although he'd obviously get one anyway
        Yeah, could be another Sturm/Dela Hoya fiasco.

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          #24
          canelo wins by robbery.

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            #25
            I think it's a very close fight. I go with Canelo, but it's close.

            As much as I want GGG-Golovkin now, if we had Canelo-Saunders and Golovkin-Jacobs in September and then the winners in November, that would be about perfect. The middleweight division would have a clear king for sure.

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              #26
              Look, I hate Canelo as much as the next guy, but he's only scared of Golovkin and nothing more. The middleweight division is weeks-old garbage level.
              Billy Hoe would probably try to act all slick, start getting countered like the untalented typical middleweight that he is, and probably get ko'ed on a body shot later in the fight.

              Catchweight or not, mediocre-ass "I lose all my big fights" Miguel Cotto basically toyed with Daniel Geale, who if I need to remind you is like a two-time middleweight champion.
              People said Geale was a "boxer-type", a style Cotto typically struggles with, but not here. Cotto looked like Samson in there with Geale. Thats middleweight for you.

              Thats your typical middleweight. Size doesnt make you superman. Golovkin has size and skills, which is why he is so far above all the other middleweights.
              Cotto and Canelo are maybe not as big but they do have some skills and natural abilty, and that will always beat a slow, bumbling, untalented oaf that most middleweights are any day.

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                #27
                I don't hate BJS's chances vs anyone at 160 tbh. I think he's got arguably the best boxing IQ in the division & is a very crafty guy. I think he's the sleeper in the division.

                Although I will add his lack of confidence (or lack of delusion as I tend to say about most fighters) in his own abilities doesn't instill a lot of confidence in my opinion of him doing what I think him capable of at some point. I think the best thing for BJS might to be to move up slower to the better guys & start to gain some confidence in himself. Moving right into a big fight with a GGG or Canelo within the next 12 months probably isn't the best long term move for him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                  I would have a better chance of being announced the winner on my couch.
                  exactly, I just think back to those cards in the Cotto fight, smh

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