Are you ok with Kovalev moving to 180 and becoming the Canelo at Cruiserweight?

[g27region]

Americans don't care about cruiserweight division and since pro boxing targeting American audience , his ass would be irrelevant at this weight

Moving to cruiserweights is completely wrong move for your career

[Jubei]

Anyone else notice how agitated the pac....errr gggtards are today?

Oh someone with Khan in his profile pic is talking big.

Some of us are actually fans of the sport. You keep supporting Divas, Vaginas, protected bums and lineal middleweights fighting china chins from 2 divisions below.

[Jubei]

Americans don't care about cruiserweight division and since pro boxing targeting American audience , his ass would be irrelevant at this weight

Everyone is claiming the winner of Kovalev Ward becomes #1 P4P of the sport and now you say no one cares and the winner would be irrelevant?

So if Ward wins he would also stay as irrelevant as he is?

Oh the irony.

[g27region]

Everyone is claiming the winner of Kovalev Ward becomes #1 P4P of the sport and now you say no one cares and the winner would be irrelevant? Oh the irony.

I'm saying Kovalev would be irrelevant if he was cruiserweight
Nobody cares about cruiserweights, at least in America

[stuff jones]

The difference is Kovalev isn't a natural cruiserweight, unlike Canelo who is a natural middleweight, so he would have justification for a catchweight.

[Jubei]

I'm saying Kovalev would be irrelevant if he was cruiserweight

Spare as your racism and favoritism.

This is an international forum, there's a huge world out there besides the US of A.

[Razcal26]

He did.

Cotto and Canelo wanted a big money fight, Canelo asked for 156 at least, Cotto wanted 155. They fought for the MW title at a catchweight of 155. Not just one divas, two of them. K2/GGG just allowed the fight to happen because they believed them they would be next on the line.

No No No No.

You said that Canelo was the one asking for the CW. They BOTH did. You said Cotto was drained. Nobody was drained for that fight. They both fought at a CW they agreed upon. You tried to make it seem like Canelo gave Cotto some ultermatim of "No 160" when Cotto didn't even propose that.

It happened, K2 just let Canelo Khan happen if both parties agreed to fight GGG next. Now they don't face GGG but face #9 ranked welterweight who doesnt even hold a belt 2 divisions lower than Canelo.

No it didn't. The fact of the matter is, Canelo was not champion for an extended period of time like you tried to present. Fact is Canelo was not fighting all these bums while he was a MW champ.

Don't give a damn what they agreed upon. You tried to say that Canelo was fighting bums while holding the strap while GGG was out trying to collect all the belts in that time. That is a lie.

Allowed? They were forced, they had to sign the deal because it was the only option to get the Diva into the ring eventually. Canelo at the Cotto press conference when asked about facing GGG next, said "I am ready!" but apparently he is not.

They were not forced to do anything. They agreed to the step aside money from Cotto. They agreed to allow Canelo this voluntary defense. THEY AGREED to this.

You don't agree to any of these terms if all you care about is the belt. You just don't. No amount of excuses you make will justify that.

Are you blind? It's right here in the forum. They say GGG didn't fight Ward at 168 but want to fight Canelo at 160. They say they want to Canelo move up to another weightclass which is just ridiculous since Canelo holds the title at MIDDLEWEIGHT.

Now they claim GGG ducked Lara which got debunked multiple times.

Again, they didn't say he HAS to fight Ward to get a fight with them. They just criticize his resume and laugh at his opponents. Oscar just said something ******, but he didn't say that GGG must fight Lara in order to face Canelo. Never said that.

They never said that GGG must fight this guy in order to fight Canelo. Only person who said that was Floyd.

I don't like Divas who pretend to be "Ready", who make false promises, who keep lying to the fans and media and who think they are better than the sport.

Be a man or be a frigging pussay.

Fair enough, but what is the point in lying and fabricating all this? We all see what is going on, there is no need for you to make up stuff.

[Jubei]

You said that Canelo was the one asking for the CW. They BOTH did. You said Cotto was drained. Nobody was drained for that fight. They both fought at a CW they agreed upon. You tried to make it seem like Canelo gave Cotto some ultermatim of "No 160" when Cotto didn't even propose that.

Point still holds, both agreed to have a money fight for a lineal belt at a catchweight just 1 pound over a weightclass below them.

Both of them are terrible Divas who ducked their mandatory.

No it didn't. The fact of the matter is, Canelo was not champion for an extended period of time like you tried to present. Fact is Canelo was not fighting all these bums while he was a MW champ.

He fights Khan, a chinny welterweight without a belt and plans to fight more fighters a couple divisions lower, like retired Manny or a rematch with old, half shot Cotto

Don't give a damn what they agreed upon. You tried to say that Canelo was fighting bums while holding the strap while GGG was out trying to collect all the belts in that time. That is a lie.

Khan is a bum when it comes to Middleweight. How can you deny that? Unranked, untested. Resume = None.

They were not forced to do anything. They agreed to the step aside money from Cotto. They agreed to allow Canelo this voluntary defense. THEY AGREED to this.

If GGG said no, then you would come out claiming GGG is ducking Canelo, didnt even let the boxing fans have the huge Cotto fight you fans have waited for

You don't agree to any of these terms if all you care about is the belt. You just don't. No amount of excuses you make will justify that.

GGG showed goodwill at first, just because they trusted Oscar/Canelo, they thought they were men of their word and got betrayed.

You obviously applaud liars and Divas which i find extremely weird.

Again, they didn't say he HAS to fight Ward to get a fight with them. They just criticize his resume and laugh at his opponents. Oscar just said something ******, but he didn't say that GGG must fight Lara in order to face Canelo. Never said that.

They never said that GGG must fight this guy in order to fight Canelo. Only person who said that was Floyd.

Then what's the reason to bring all that up?

They still use these comments as excuses why they don't have to fight GGG. It makes no sense. How long has GGG been mandatory? Why force GGG to fight at 155 for a 160lb title?

Why bring up names from other divisions who have nothing to do with the MW belt? Why so scared, why so defensive, why all these excuses and claims?

Why not make the fight the fans want to see?


Fair enough, but what is the point in lying and fabricating all this? We all see what is going on, there is no need for you to make up stuff.

You don't seem to be ******, I guess you get the point but for some unknown reason you pick and choose whatever suits your agenda for trying to defend Canelo, even you realize what he does is terrible because you somehow hate GGG, which is pathetic in itself.

Anyway this leads to nothing. I guess you just can't help yourself to prove a point, even if it means damaging the sport you love. Sad.

[g27region]

Spare as your racism and favoritism.

This is an international forum, there's a huge world out there besides the US of A.

People don't hesitate to throw accusations of racism and favoritism nowadays, especially if you talk to Americans, they see racism everywhere, but considering their history it's understandable why.

Since when stating two facts that

1) Pro boxing is targeting USA audience
and
2) Cruiserweight division isn't relevant in USA

is considered to be "racism" and "favoritism"? I'd be more than glad if cruiserweight division was getting more attention from americans, there's a lot of solid fighters there, but I'm calling a spade a spade, cruiserweight division is not popular in the country where biggest pro boxing organizations are located and I don't know what's that got to do with racism and favoritism

Moving to cruiserweight would be suicide for Kovalev's carrer, he'd even disappear from top 10 p4p list

[Razcal26]

Point still holds, both agreed to have a money fight for a lineal belt at a catchweight just 1 pound over a weightclass below them.

Both of them are terrible Divas who ducked their mandatory.

No, it doesn't. It goes COMPLETELY AGAINST the first intial statement you made; that Canelo forced Cotto to fight him at a CW when in fact Cotto wanted a CW.

He fights Khan, a chinny welterweight without a belt and plans to fight more fighters a couple divisions lower, like retired Manny or a rematch with old, half shot Cotto

Again, it goes against the initial point you tried to present. Until he has these other defenses against these other bums in lower weights, then it is nothing but speculation.

Khan is a bum when it comes to Middleweight. How can you deny that? Unranked, untested. Resume = None.

Where did I deny that Khan is a bum? Don't try and flip the argument here. You lied and tried to say that Canelo was having multiple defenses of his MW strap at CWs while GGG was collecting all the belts in that time. That is a lie.

If GGG said no, then you would come out claiming GGG is ducking Canelo, didnt even let the boxing fans have the huge Cotto fight you fans have waited for

No, I wouldn't say he was ducking. I would say he is consistent and honest. It would truly sow that he wants the WBC strap and that unification was the only goal.

By allowing the step aside money and Voluntary defense, it shows me that the belt is a far 2nd on GGG and his teams true intentions.

GGG showed goodwill at first, just because they trusted Oscar/Canelo, they thought they were men of their word and got betrayed.

You obviously applaud liars and Divas which i find extremely weird.

Goodwill my ass. He wanted the big fight, with the big named stars so he could get that PPV money and fame and tried to use the belt as some sort of sideshow...................... and he got punked by Cotto and is getting punked by Canelo.

Then what's the reason to bring all that up?

They still use these comments as excuses why they don't have to fight GGG. It makes no sense. How long has GGG been mandatory? Why force GGG to fight at 155 for a 160lb title?

Why bring up names from other divisions who have nothing to do with the MW belt? Why so scared, why so defensive, why all these excuses and claims?

Why not make the fight the fans want to see?

To protect Canelo's image.

Let's be honest, GGG resume is dog****. You'll have a hard time convincing the casual public that a guy with that type of resume is a known threat. It puts across a picture that the guy isn't really that good and it would be a waste of time.

Using the other fighters names is a way to also protect Canelo's image. Saying rubbish like, "Canelo has fought Lara, Trout, Cotto etc tough guys." "GGG refused to fight Ward, Lara etc, why is that? Because he isn't that good"

It's child BS 101.

You don't seem to be ******, I guess you get the point but for some unknown reason you pick and choose whatever suits your agenda for trying to defend Canelo, even you realize what he does is terrible because you somehow hate GGG, which is pathetic in itself.

Anyway this leads to nothing. I guess you just can't help yourself to prove a point, even if it means damaging the sport you love. Sad.

I'm not damaging anything and I never said I pick Canelo's side. I never said I hate GGG either. I just see that both sides are FOS and I refuse to let the opposing fanbases try and push their biased agendas at me.

I don't want to be like Steve Kim or Fat Dan.