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Originally posted by b d w View PostHow can they not be indigenous when they were the 1st people to settle there?
If we are going to argue about where they originated from we might as will go all the way back to Hawaii, or better yet let's take it all back to Africa, LOL.
You're a special kind of ******.
Pacific Islanders don't have dual nationality you brick. They have to apply just like everyone else for NZ nationality, but due to agreements between both sets of government have a lower threshold required to move to NZ.
Being a NZ'er I'm going to back my knowledge of our culture/history a little more than some palooka that lived there for awhile.
Since you started this completely pointless debate over the word Maori, Ill end it for you and teach you of simple definitions of simple word's you can't seem to grasp.
You called him Samoan/German. He is not he is a kiwi. He has maori blood in him therefore i called him a maori.
Maori blood does not mean you are from a specific country, it's the race of polynesian people.
My grandfather was scottish, does that make me a scot? no.
Would i call myself a 'celtic warrior' if i was a boxer and then get called out by some autistic on the net over the definition and history of 'celtic'
yes
So does that make him STRICTLY SAMOAN AND GERMAN
no.
have you been schooled by a pom on your own country?
yes.
Are you autistic and start pointless arguments over definitions over word's that you dont even know the meaning of
yes
ps: yes they do, on the cook islands they all have dual nationality.Last edited by mlac; 04-09-2016, 08:23 PM.
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[QUOTE=b d w;16596816]Ummm, not it's not. Oxford English dictionary definition of Maori:
A member of the aboriginal people of New Zealand.
I thought we already cleared that up, clearly not.
one last time: The Maori are not indigenous they came from the pacific islands.
How does it feel to learn about history from a pom son?
Im going jack the mutt on you verbally cuzzy bro
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[QUOTE=mlac;16596832]Originally posted by b d w View PostUmmm, not it's not. Oxford English dictionary definition of Maori:
A member of the aboriginal people of New Zealand.
I thought we already that up, clearly not.
one last time: The Maori are not indigenous they came from the pacific islands.
How does it feel to learn about history from a pom son?
Im going jack the mutt on you verbally cuzzy bro
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[QUOTE=b d w;16596835]Originally posted by mlac View Post
And the Pacific Islanders came from where, son? Coz they sure as hell didn't emanate from there. Keep digging that hole punchy.
I know you love my history lessons, but im not going to go back to the origins of man.
I think you're a sick man from a remote farm in the south island you want Joseph to be a **** with all this German talk. admit it.
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[QUOTE=mlac;16596850]Originally posted by b d w View Post
That's irrelevant, You're claiming for some bizarre reason that Samoa and the Maori's that later arrived in new zealand are somehow totally separate peoples.
I know you love my history lessons, but im not going to go back to the origins of man.
I think you're a sick man from a remote farm in the south island you want Joseph to be a **** with all this German talk. admit it.
Maori, Samoan and Tongan are all separate regardless of origins.
And why does being a German or having German ancestry automatically make someone a ****? You are belying your own racism with that type of casual racial profiling. Try going into any pub in South Auckland and telling any Samoan or Tongan they are in fact Maori. Haha, your pommy ass would end up on the pavement with you scrabbling around collecting your teeth off the ground.
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[QUOTE=b d w;16596861]Originally posted by mlac View Post
They have the same origins, but dude how dumb are you. Current science says traced back they believe 'man' came from 2 origins.
Maori, Samoan and Tongan are all separate regardless of origins.
And why does being a German or having German ancestry automatically make someone a ****? You are belying your own racism with that type of casual racial profiling. Try going into any pub in South Auckland and telling any Samoan or Tongan they are in fact Maori. Haha, your pommy ass would end up on the pavement with you scrabbling around collecting your teeth off the ground.
Btw i was tight with the mongrel mob in hawkes bay cuzzy bro. Aucklands for Hipsters and p ussies
i was warned by the scared little white new zealanders like you about how dangerous the maori were when i arrived.
I didnt find that at all, they were tight as ***.
Carry on being a scared lil pu ssy son! neo **** biatch! (im joking about the **** schit grow a sense of humor you autistic weirdo!)
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[QUOTE=mlac;16596879]Originally posted by b d w View Post
When did i say Tonga is Samoa, now your mixing countries in a discussion about a race of peoples.
Btw i was tight with the mongrel mob in hawkes bay cuzzy bro. Aucklands for Hipsters and p ussies
i was warned by the scared little white new zealanders like you about how dangerous the maori were when i arrived.
I didnt find that at all, they were tight as ***.
Carry on being a scared lil pu ssy son! neo **** biatch! (im joking about the **** schit grow a sense of humor you autistic weirdo!)
This exert from historian James Cowan:
Who are the Maoris? Where did they come from? The Rev. J. Watkin, in his report to the Missionary Society, London, states that their “traditions as well as their language show them to have had an origin common with the Polynesians.” The problem has occupied the careful attention of the historian and the ethnologist for very many years, and although there are diversities of opinion, it is generally agreed that the Maori is a Polynesian with a blend of Melanesian blood. The latter connects him with the dark-skinned peoples of New Guinea and the adjacent islands. The ancestry of the Maori, however, may be traced much further back than to the islands of the Pacific. James Cowan in The Maori Yesterday and Today quotes from a Maori chant as follows: “I came from Great Distance, from Long-Distance, from PAGE 10 Very-Distant-Places — from Hawaiki.” “This formula,” says Mr. Cowan, “summarises the Maori idea of the migration of his ancestors, from one Tawhiti or Hawaiki to another, across the island-strewn Pacific.”
The tradition of the last migration from Tahiti and adjacent islands is illuminating. The tohungas have preserved these facts in detail from the last of the Hawaikis up to the arrival of their ancestors to New Zealand. “Hawaiki” means “the distant home” and refers to any place from which the Maori came in their ancient wanderings.
The Polynesian ancestry may be traced back to a distant Hawaiki—probably to the northern shores of the Persian Gulf and to the early inhabitants of Asia. Mr. Cowan, in Maoris of New Zealand, says that the Maori-Polynesian is a branch, though a distant one, of the Caucasian race and that this view is now generally accepted by scientific investigators. If this is correct, the Maori can therefore claim a connection with the ancient Chaldeans, the Phoenicians, the Babylonians, the Hebrews and the Arabs.
When discussing origins you DON't get to pick and choose where you actually stop tracing back to. Dummy.
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