This boxer is the king of No-Contest!

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His primary fight base was New York which had strict prohibitions on boxing back then. The fights were scheduled as "exhibitions" where it was legal to make a accidental mistake and KO the other fighter, but any compilation of points for a judgement was considered to be an illegal boxing contest which left the participants open to arrests, fines, and convictions.

Harry Greb has a ton of NCs on his record as do most fighters of the era who made their homebase in an NC state. That's why Dempsey was so exciting for boxing. He was KOing most of his opponents so the public usually got to see a conclusive end to a match.

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I read somewhere that boxings first wonder kid Bennt Leanord had over 100 Nc's more than he has wins

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I read somewhere that boxings first wonder kid Bennt Leanord had over 100 Nc's more than he has wins

Not as far as can be told through available records at BoxRec (incomplete, to be sure, but...). Leonard has 32 or 33 NCs/NDs, about 5 or 6 less than Buff, although Leonard had over a hundred more fights than Buff. In a fight against Johnny Dundee which was officially tallied as an NC, The New York Times had Dundee winning by a "wide margin" while the wire services had Leonard the victor. The Trenton Times had it even. The fight was in Philly. Dundee has more NCs than Leonard at around 50, but he had more than thrice the number of fights as Buff had.

As far as I can tell, the Dundee meeting was also Leonard's next to last NC/ND: he either won or lost his subsequent fights via stoppages or newspaper verdicts, except the wolrd title fight in 1918 in Newark, NJ, against Ted Lewis, which was declared an NC. The newspapers were unable to agree on a winner: The New York Times called it a draw; the Washington Post and the Calgary Herald had it for Lewis, while the Middletwon Times and the Bridgeport Telegram saw it as a close win for Leonard.

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His primary fight base was New York which had strict prohibitions on boxing back then. The fights were scheduled as "exhibitions" where it was legal to make a accidental mistake and KO the other fighter, but any compilation of points for a judgement was considered to be an illegal boxing contest which left the participants open to arrests, fines, and convictions.

Harry Greb has a ton of NCs on his record as do most fighters of the era who made their homebase in an NC state. That's why Dempsey was so exciting for boxing. He was KOing most of his opponents so the public usually got to see a conclusive end to a match.

I dunno how you take BoxRec: if you don't trust it, I won't blame you. Many don't.

Be that as it may, checking BoxRec's record on Greb, it says he fought most of his fights in Philly until 1918, with stops in NY, TN, WI, etc. While he has quite a number of official Draws, he only has a handful of NCs/NDs. He had quite a number of wins via "newspaper decisions", though.

Among Greb's few NC's/ND's that BoxRec has on its tally is the one against Kid Norfolk in 1921 in Pittsburgh, where Greb found himself on the canvass in the third. The Pitt Post and the Gazzette Times had it for Norfolk while the Daily Dispatch declared it a "hairline win" for Greb, who was reported to have done a lot of holding in the first five rounds. The KD in the third was said to have been a "flash knockdown" and Greb did not appear to have been hurt.