Daniel Jacobs hints at the GGG fight happening in 2016

[jqSide]

Yep, Ward said no alright

He said no in front of HBO execs and GG. LOL. Said something about his shoulder....and promoter....haha...

Funny part was Ward can't lie about it.

[Chollo Vista]

So boxingscene and all the other youtube videos are magically lying by showing quotes and real time videos of Andre Ward saying he's welcomed a GGG fight?

Tom Loeffler was lying in the article I just posted saying "they were in talks with Ward, but Team GGG decided it didn't make business sense with Ward"?

Boxingscene, youtube bloggers, Tom Loeffler, Abel Sanchez are all lying about Andre Ward saying he wanted the fight?

Only JQside and the rest of the GGG cuckholds know the truth?

[ИATAS]

As of June 2013 - //krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=602554

Oh okay so you're just gonna pick and choose whatever the hell you feel like that fits your agenda. This article you link is AFTER Ward turned down Golovkin. There was an offer on the table from K2 and HBO for a Ward-Golovkin fight, Ward turned it down.

Oh, but if anyone else wants to make "bizness" decisions for their career, it's not ok because NATAS and Co. says so. "Bizness" decisions are only ok when GGG Pac decide it's ok to make business decisions. Why such dichotomy?

The problem here is you're trying to use examples of fighters in DIFFERENT weight classes. Usually if a guy is going to go up or down an entire weight class, it's going to be for a big fight, especially when that fighter is already campaigning at a specific weight class.

Jacobs and Golovkin are in the SAME weight class. There aren't "bizness" decisions it's called ducking. If Ward offered Jacobs a fight at 168 and Jacobs said, nah, I'm trying to unify and fight Golovkin in my own weight class, do you think anyone here would accuse Jacobs of ducking Ward? Of course not and do you know why? Because they aren't in the same damn division!

Oh, and your comment about BJS, I'm not contradicting anything. Once again, since GGG can't give Jacobs the $$$ he's asking, the plan was to fight BJS so the GGG vs Jacobs fight can be that much bigger. But I'm sure you'll try to use hyperbole to dance around why you don't understand that.

You absolutely contradicted yourself. You called BJS a ***** for turning down Jacobs because of money. Yet Jacobs turned down Golovkin because of money. What would you call that? A contradiction.

The other issue here is you keep saying Golovkin can't give Jacobs the money he wants. It's not Golovkin/K2, it's the networks. No network as of right now is willing to pay Jacobs that kind of money. Same goes for BJS. BJS knows this which is why people call it "pricing themselves out". Jacobs also knows this which is why he says he wants one and a half years to build the fight so he'll be worth more money. Jacobs explained that himself in multiple interviews.

GGG vs Jacobs - Jacobs isn't allowed to make bizness sense. He's duckin, doe

Jacobs is expected to fight the best in his own weight class, just like every other top fighter in boxing is expected to fight the best in their own weight classes. If Jacobs, Golovkin, Keith Thurman, Gonzalez, et la want to move up a weight class or move down a weight class, that's on them but it certainly isn't an obligation. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. Is boxing so ****ed up to the point where we can't even expect fighters to fight guys in their own weight classes without first figuring out if it's a smart business decision? Jesus ****ing Christ what a joke this sport and it's fans have become.

[Chollo Vista]

Oh okay so you're just gonna pick and choose whatever the hell you feel like that fits your agenda. This article you link is AFTER Ward turned down Golovkin. There was an offer on the table from K2 and HBO for a Ward-Golovkin fight, Ward turned it down.






The problem here is you're trying to use examples of fighters in DIFFERENT weight classes. Usually if a guy is going to go up or down an entire weight class, it's going to be for a big fight, especially when that fighter is already campaigning at a specific weight class.

Jacobs and Golovkin are in the SAME weight class. There aren't "bizness" decisions it's called ducking. If Ward offered Jacobs a fight at 168 and Jacobs said, nah, I'm trying to unify and fight Golovkin in my own weight class, do you think anyone here would accuse Jacobs of ducking Ward? Of course not and do you know why? Because they aren't in the same damn division!



You absolutely contradicted yourself. You called BJS a ***** for turning down Jacobs because of money. Yet Jacobs turned down Golovkin because of money. What would you call that? A contradiction.

The other issue here is you keep saying Golovkin can't give Jacobs the money he wants. It's not Golovkin/K2, it's the networks. No network as of right now is willing to pay Jacobs that kind of money. Same goes for BJS. BJS knows this which is why people call it "pricing themselves out". Jacobs also knows this which is why he says he wants one and a half years to build the fight so he'll be worth more money. Jacobs explained that himself in multiple interviews.




Jacobs is expected to fight the best in his own weight class, just like every other top fighter in boxing is expected to fight the best in their own weight classes. If Jacobs, Golovkin, Keith Thurman, Gonzalez, et la want to move up a weight class or move down a weight class, that's on them but it certainly isn't an obligation. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. Is boxing so ****ed up to the point where we can't even expect fighters to fight guys in their own weight classes without first figuring out if it's a smart business decision? Jesus ****ing Christ what a joke this sport and it's fans have become.

NATAS, What in the fcuk are you talking about???

I just laid the fcuking quotes from Tom Loeffler himself from the year you said Ward ducked GGG.

I just laid it out for you.

Loeffler clearly made "Bizness" decisions. The same business decisions no one else is allowed to make according to you.

Then you bring up 160? Loeffler and GGG made bizness decisions there as well with Lara.

Team GGG is always making business decisions, but cuckhold NATAS refuses to see.

You want to talk about selective hearing? Jacobs has also said that he wants fair money. You can't repeat "Jacobs said he wants the right money" if I paid you right now.

Give it up. You're a GGG cuckhold no matter what Tom Loeffler or GGG himself says.

And I never said BJS turned down Jacobs for money... You are literally losing your fcuking mind. Show me right now where I said that???

[M Bison]

Yep, Ward said no alright

Ward fanbase are so gullible it's actually really embarrassing, you'd believe him no matter what he says.

[Chollo Vista]

Ward fanbase are so gullible it's actually really embarrassing, you'd believe him no matter what he says.

Do you think it was really Ward that ducked GGG?

[Chollo Vista]

Did he seriously? lol

Isn't it obvious that Ward would duck a decent payday from a smaller guy who 95% of intellectually functional individuals think he would easily beat?
Ward ducked and went on a mission to steal a belt from that pushover Kovalev. The easy path of going up a weight class to fight the most intimidating fighter in the sport. All makes sense, right? lol @ these Golovkids

Yeah, he's said Ward ducked GGG about 10 times in this thread alone

Ward turned down a fight against Golovkin again at 168 in 2013.

[doninlouisiana]

Considering GGG has 20 consecutive KO's, not to many people have the chin to face him. We know that.

But the real question at hand is does GGG have the chin to take what he dishes and can he stand up to Jacobs if he gets caught flush?

So Jacobs hits harder than lemieux now?

Or Curtis Stevens? Both him and Lemieux caught GGG with a bomb of a left hook, right on the chin and Golovkin didn't seem fazed, so I'm thinking he has an excellent chin.

[ИATAS]

Yeah, he's said Ward ducked GGG about 10 times in this thread alone

It's annoying dealing with idiots.

Did I ever once say Ward ducked Golovkin? Nope. For starters, you can't duck someone who isn't in the same division you campaign in, it's not possible since there are literally zero obligations for a fighter to move up or down in weight. Second, Ward wasn't interested in a Golovkin fight at that time, that is true there was an offer on the table from HBO and Ward wasn't interested in it. Ward I'm sure had his own reasons but that's the reality, just as Golovkin had his reasons when Roc Nation contacted him when he was signing a unification fight with Lemeuix.

What's funny to me though is you using this as an example of why it's OK for Jacobs to not want to fight Golovkin, even though they are in the same division and Jacobs is in a mandatory position. It's not a business decision it's called ducking. Every so called champion is obligated to fight the best in their division and of Jacobs wants to be a champion he needs to fight Golovkin, period.

[Chollo Vista]

Second, Ward wasn't interested in a Golovkin fight at that time, that is true there was an offer on the table from HBO and Ward wasn't interested in it.

Let's see here, what you're saying is Ward turned down GGG before June 2013, correct?

Well according to this ESPN article, Ward was in training to fight Kelly Pavlik November 2012 when he injured his shoulder. He had to pull out of the Jan 26, 2013 fight against Kelly Pavlik. They rescheduled for March 2013, but Ward wasn't fully recovered from the injury.

Tom Loeffler gave the interview I posted in June 2013. Using an iota of critical thinking, when in the fcuk did Andre Ward turn down GGG???

He was supposed to fight Pavlik in March 2013, but couldn't due to the injury. A few months later, Tom Loeffler is giving this interview saying "it doesn't make business sense to fight Ward".

Read the damn article. Then read this article from ESPN:



"Ward (26-0, 14 KOs), 28, of Oakland, Calif., was training for a Jan. 26 title defense against former middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik when he injured the shoulder in a November sparring session.

The original MRI on Ward's shoulder showed significant swelling and inflammation and his doctor recommended rest and rehabilitation. The fight was in the process of being rescheduled for March 2, but when Ward showed little improvement, he sought a second opinion and surgery was recommended.

The timetable for Ward's return has not been set, but he is likely going to be out for 4 to 6 months. If his shoulder heals well, he could be back in the ring in early fall".

Now when you say Ward had the chance to fight GGG before June 2013, what in the fcuk are you talking about NATAS? You're literally losing your fcuking mind man.

Regarding Jacobs, I've explained to you over 100 times my positioning on those current negotiations. But just as you've lost credibility with your Ward avoiding GGG in 2013, you've proven you don't have an iota of intelligence to come close to understanding someone else's viewpoint on GGG-Jacobs.