Top 10 Heavyweights

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Why on earth would you rank ortiz and wilder above povetkin?

They'd both defeat him.

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Wladimir and Povetkin were head and shoulders above everyone else until Fury go the upset and now we're obligated to include him there.

Champion: Fury

1. Klitschko
2. Povektin

Everyone else on that list is opinion and speculation because most of them have 1 notable win, a paper belt, and the hype of their hometown.

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They'd both defeat him.

I guess in boxing anything can happen, but that's just not how ranking lists are created.

Povetkin's routine wins against Takam/Chagaev/Chambers/Perez/Charr/Wach/etc/etc/etc are all roughly equal to the highest apex of Wilder's career (Stiverne). I mean mathematicaly speaking without even involving opinion, he has about 10 times the career/10 times the amount of good wins. Not even factoring in Stiverne's claim that he was deathly ill.

Ortiz seems better than Wilder, but they are not in the same resume tier as Povetkin right now. Without Klitschko there he would have been ruling the division quite handily.

Hell because he only has 1 loss compared to Klitschko having a few, and they've both vanquished some of the same opponents (Byrd, Chagaev, Wach, Rahman, Chambers) and Povetkin has been a murderer lately while Wlad has fallen to pieces, you could argue Povetkin has the best resume of this era.

His size and age make it unlikely he will ever enjoy real title reign but on the basis of reality, it's a two horse race between him and Wladimir for best resume, whilst Tyson holds the lineal belt.

[Jewish-Reptile]

They'd both defeat him.

If Fury knocked Wilder out I would laugh, if Fury stopped Povetkin I would stand up and say WOAH, I'm sure the majority of the boxing world would stand up and take note too.

Povetkin is a far tougher proposition than this American nobody with a green bauble.

I'm not sure what you see in Wilder bar size or maybe you recognise Wilder is a chump and know Fury has his number and don't want to see Fury not take any kudos when he easily handles him. Povetkin is by far universally recognised as a more competent challenger on elite level.

[soul_survivor]

See I don't even think he's the best prospect around. A lot of Brits are already creaming their jeans over this dude and he will prove to ultimately be a bust.

Yes he will figure in the mix because he can punch and their is big money and a big fan base behind him. They may even maneuver him into a strap but he will take losses and a few of them if he sticks around long enough and most will end by KO.

There is nothing special about this dude.

Name me 5 better prospects and why.

Also, the vast majority of fighters take losses, what has that got to do with AJ?

Do you think he can win a world title?

[LacedUp]

Skill and power are about the same, top of the scale, I would say these guys have been ahead of Klitschko before he lost to Fury, only Wlad had huge size advantage and a negative style to Povetkin's. Ortiz for me has all the attributes of Povetkin, potentially more but crucially he's as big, even bigger than Klitschko. I was saying before the Fury loss he was the danger man to Wlad, now I'm saying he's the biggest threat to Fury and Wilder, hence why they'll avoid him and go after the softer touches like the chinny Joshua and significantly shorter Povetkin, dudes representing a lesser threat than Ortiz, I expect Fury to vacate as opposed to face Ortiz when that order is official if Ortiz continues his current Wilder/Joshua style tear though I feel Ortiz has a victory more impressive than these guys already, he certainly looks the full package, Haymon and Hearn will be concerned with him kicking around the division with their current cash cows looking so flimsy.

You amuse me.

[Jewish-Reptile]

You amuse me.

You amuse everyone.

[LacedUp]

You amuse everyone.

Wow that was bad.

FYI Povetkin and Ortiz fight nothing alike

To pass Ortiz off as a bigger Povetkin just shows how little you know about boxing.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Wow that was bad.

FYI Povetkin and Ortiz fight nothing alike

To pass Ortiz off as a bigger Povetkin just shows how little you know about boxing.

Show me another boxer in the division with as much skill and pedigree as either ? Both have a similar repertoire of skills, of course neither fight the same but both can do a lot the other can and a lot more than some of these giant oafs populating the division. Povetkin's only real shortfall is in fact his height, if he was 6'7" he would be unbeatable unlike some of these other clowns who really only have height and a big punch in their arsenal.

Ortiz appears to be the full package, he has the height Povetkin lacks and will walk through these chinny pretenders you currently excitedly tug yourself off over.

Come enlighten and amuse me some more.

[LacedUp]

Show me another boxer in the division with as much skill and pedigree as either ? Both have a similar repertoire of skills, of course neither fight the same but both can do a lot the other can and a lot more than some of these giant oafs populating the division. Povetkin's only real shortfall is in fact his height, if he was 6'7" he would be unbeatable unlike some of these other clowns who really only have height and a big punch in their arsenal.

Ortiz appears to be the full package, he has the height Povetkin lacks and will walk through these chinny pretenders you currently excitedly tug yourself off over.

Come enlighten and amuse me some more.

Dude they don't fight the same at all If you can't see that there's not a lot I can teach you.

Ortiz has extremely well educated footwork, can switch and uses his jab a lot more than Povetkin - At least the Povetkin that has fought in the last 2-3 years.

Ortiz is very light on his feet for such a big man and uses the ring, Povetkin doesn't at all. Povetkin uses his physical tools to get into mid-range to fire of his deadly hooks whereas Ortiz uses his jab to set up the power shots.

He also fights behind the shoulder with one hand pawing or by the waist - very hard for the opponent to predict, whereas Povetkin fights more square with hands around his ears.

Oh yeah, and of course one is a southpaw and one isn't.

Both are good fighters and can KO their opponent at any time - But they don't fight alike at all and Ortiz is in no way "basically a bigger Povetkin" That's just idiotic.