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    #71
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    that's what they said about Manny vs Floyd, Garcia VS Matthyssee, Ali vs Foreman, Wlad vs Fury, etc....the list goes on....you cant beat or ko what you cant hit at the right time, distance, and technique

    Gotta have more than a big punch and hype to beat elite competition
    ward is easier to hit than people think though. hes no mayweather. relies on clinching and being stronger than opponent on inside, froch remarked on how strong he was. he wont be able to bully beterbiev and will get outgunned

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      #72
      Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
      ward is easier to hit than people think though. hes no mayweather. relies on clinching and being stronger than opponent on inside, froch remarked on how strong he was. he wont be able to bully beterbiev and will get outgunned
      did you even watch his last 4 fights, there aren't many clinches at all and he is making them miss standing right in front of them.

      you don't have to be mayweather but if your opponent is only landing 20%, that's a tight defense no matter how you slice it...he lands at over 40 % and his opponents usually land 25 % or less.

      sounds like the only thing you are banking on is power to bail him out....more times than not, the better schooled smarter fighter wins and that's ward

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        #73
        If Beterbiev actually treats this one seriously with a good gameplan he would give Ward a bad beating just look at what Barrera did to Ward but apparently Ward was schooling him by taking clean shots to the face lol.

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          #74
          Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
          ward is easier to hit than people think though. hes no mayweather. relies on clinching and being stronger than opponent on inside, froch remarked on how strong he was. he wont be able to bully beterbiev and will get outgunned
          I think it's safe to say he is nowhere near that Pacquiao or Mayweather level he is a level or two just below GGG in terms of skill and boxing IQ wise I think Kovalev is a fair equal to Ward though so it makes it a close fight.

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            #75
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            did you even watch his last 4 fights, there aren't many clinches at all and he is making them miss standing right in front of them.

            you don't have to be mayweather but if your opponent is only landing 20%, that's a tight defense no matter how you slice it...he lands at over 40 % and his opponents usually land 25 % or less.

            sounds like the only thing you are banking on is power to bail him out....more times than not, the better schooled smarter fighter wins and that's ward
            he hasnt needed to clinch cause them opponents are so bad. A leopard cant change his spots and he will revert to type, fouling and clinching

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              #76
              Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              I think it's safe to say he is nowhere near that Pacquiao or Mayweather level he is a level or two just below GGG in terms of skill and boxing IQ wise I think Kovalev is a fair equal to Ward though so it makes it a close fight.
              yeah wards skills and ring iq is heavily overrated

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                #77
                Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
                If Beterbiev actually treats this one seriously with a good gameplan he would give Ward a bad beating just look at what Barrera did to Ward but apparently Ward was schooling him by taking clean shots to the face lol.
                I hope Kovalev dominates Ward, beats Stevenson after, and meet in a clash verse Beterbiev

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                  he hasnt needed to clinch cause them opponents are so bad. A leopard cant change his spots and he will revert to type, fouling and clinching
                  if " all he does is clinch and head butt"...wouldn't you think he'd use these tactics vs everyone he fights?

                  where were all the head butts vs Dawson, Abraham and Froch?

                  seems like you are reaching for something that's not their

                  if a leopard cant change its spots, he would fight the same way and use the same tactics in each fight....you contradicted himself

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                    yeah wards skills and ring iq is heavily overrated
                    why hasn't he had any highly contested fights then?

                    must be pretty high if no one has taken him out, beaten him since he was growing peach fuzz

                    just say you are rooting for Kovalev and hope he wins.

                    that's a lot better than downplaying one of the best fighters to turn pro in the last 15 years.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      if " all he does is clinch and head butt"...wouldn't you think he'd use these tactics vs everyone he fights?

                      where were all the head butts vs Dawson, Abraham and Froch?

                      seems like you are reaching for something that's not their

                      if a leopard cant change its spots, he would fight the same way and use the same tactics in each fight....you contradicted himself
                      okay wrong saying, but he will revert to type against a top fighter. trust me he is going to fight negatively and try and stink the place out. he made the froch fight ugly, lots of clinching but was less headbutts cause it wasnt in oakland. hes not going to be able to manhandle kovalev/beterbiev, they will take his head clean off on the inside

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