Vid: Old Timer Joe "FBF" Cortez thought Cotto actually won, calls for Judges overhaul

[Dirk Diggler UK]

wow you are such an insecure idiot you actually think I'm making an argument for Wlad....My point is that if he had landed 2-3 counters in the rounds...The perception would have changed and Fury's movement would have been seen as something he was doing to stay away..

It's pretty much that reason I had Canelo vs Cotto a draw..Despite Canelo's crisp flashy counters, Cotto was still landing punches.. IDC if they were hurting Canelo or not..

Learn how to score boxing and stop basing your **** arguments on hypotheticals.

[WesternChamp]

Damm a lot of people is not giving Canelo any credit for this win. I watched this fight twice but both times i can never make myself stay and watch the whole entire fight, kinda skip thru some rounds and what not. But from what i saw, i thought Canelo edge out Cotto though? I mean it wasnt a one sided beat down like some Canelo fans is trying to make it out to be but i still thought Canelo did enough to win. Maybe i'll have to watch this whole entire fight again from start to finish.

[Agent Mulder]

I've always said that PRs were more delusional than the Pinoys were with Pacquiao. This fight and the filth that's come out of their mouths proved my point I think.

[-Kev-]

He makes a great point though. He also said if you don't see the punch you can't score it. Anyway I thought the fight was closed and there were a couple of swing rounds. It was 7-5 Canelo, but if you had Cotto winning 7-5 it's not impossible to make a good case for it. The fight was not a wide win at all.

[extracurRICular]

He makes a great point though. He also said if you don't see the punch you can't score it. Anyway I thought the fight was closed and there were a couple of swing rounds. It was 7-5 Canelo, but if you had Cotto winning 7-5 it's not impossible to make a good case for it. The fight was not a wide win at all.

[!! Shawn]

The fight wasn't really close score wise. It was a competitive fight, but it was hard to give cotto rounds. Its one of the few fights I think Harold Lederman was onpoint with his scorecard.

Cotto boxed well and moved well, but he seemed content just throwing off combinations at arms and air. He was lacking in really solid connects.

He definitely was the more polished technician in the ring, but he was unable to be truly effective. He did everything right, but was unable to control the fight.

When you are boxing like Cotto was, you win rounds by dictating the terms of engagement, and controlling the pace. Cotto was able to box beautifully, throw beautiful combos, but he could never establish control of the pace. That's why he lost.

It could be because his punches didn't have the same snap or weight to them that we have seen in the past, or that Canelo's punches were heavy enough to make Cotto not want to commit to his own punches, but however you cut it, none of what Cotto did was effective. Cotto fought pretty much perfect, and it wasn't enough. Probably a case of the good little man always loses to the good big man.

I think the fight was a bit of a coming out party for Canelo, where we finally saw that he is capable of competing at a world class level. Cotto showed that he still has quite a bit left in the tank, but also showed that his recent successes were due more to good matchmaking than the clock being turned back.

The Cotto that fought Pacquiao, or Margarito the first time probably would have won this fight fairly decisively. Instead, todays cotto lost fairly decisively, albeit competitively.

[extracurRICular]

The fight wasn't really close score wise. It was a competitive fight, but it was hard to give cotto rounds. Its one of the few fights I think Harold Lederman was onpoint with his scorecard.

oooooooooookay jim..................I believe Harold had it with only 3 rounds to Cotto no?

[!! Shawn]

Damm a lot of people is not giving Canelo any credit for this win. I watched this fight twice but both times i can never make myself stay and watch the whole entire fight, kinda skip thru some rounds and what not. But from what i saw, i thought Canelo edge out Cotto though? I mean it wasnt a one sided beat down like some Canelo fans is trying to make it out to be but i still thought Canelo did enough to win. Maybe i'll have to watch this whole entire fight again from start to finish.

Thats unfortunate, as a boxing fan, it was a great fight. High level boxing from start to finish, with a fair bit of action.

Cotto is always beautiful to watch, as he has been one of the more well rounded fighters out there throughout his career. Always over shadowed by Floyd and Pacquiao, but his skills are quite wonderful.

Canelo showed that he has really grown in the quality of his craft, and showed that he can box at the highest level against a great technician and look good doing it.

[!! Shawn]

oooooooooookay jim..................I believe Harold had it with only 3 rounds to Cotto no?

Yes, I think that is a fair card. As I said it was a very competitive fight. But fights are scored round by round. And this is an instance where a fair scorecard doesn't reflect how competitive that fight was.

It wasn't really a back and forth fight, the fight was pretty much the same all the way. Very competitive, but with Cotto coming up just a hair short in almost every round. There are very few rounds where you can decisively say that was a Cotto round, as is evidenced by the fact that there was not a single round that Cotto won on the official scorecards that he won on all 3 scorecards.

Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, and I am relatively indifferent towards Canelo, and believe he was quite soundly beaten by Lara. So I am not a biased Canelo fan, or a Cotto hater.

I just score objectively. Feel free to watch the fight again, and you will see what I mean. Cotto was content to unload his combinations at Canelo's arms and gloves. Didn't really create openings as we are use to seeing, and never sat down on his punches enough to take the closer rounds where Canelo's heavier shots were the difference makers, or enough to take control of the pace in closer rounds were that would have been the difference maker.

[Bardock]

At the very least Cortez is bringing forth ideas to improve the vantage point of judges which we all know wo question needs to be revisited especially with the controversy surrounding the Cotto fight and numerous others...

no controversy. Only a controversy if you're a butthurt rican seeking some type of comfort.