Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — Golovkin-Canelo: Guarded Optimism

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by David P. Greisman - The fight between Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez would have been a significant event just for what it represented, never mind for its ramifications. But the possibility of what could come next only added to the allure of what was to come first.

There was hope that the winner of Cotto vs. Alvarez would go on to face Gennady Golovkin. And fortunately there was more than just that hope. There also was a mandate.

The mandate went beyond the sentiment of boxing fans. It came from the sanctioning body that bestowed the world title Cotto held and for which Alvarez was vying. The mandate said that Cotto had postponed the prospect of facing Golovkin for long enough. He’d pushed it off and was willing to pay for the privilege, an investment that let him keep the World Boxing Council belt and set up the fight with Alvarez. The WBC obliged. If Golovkin was willing to take the money to wait, then the WBC could get a fight it wanted and collect six figures in fees from the fighters involved, then potentially collect even more were the winner to go on to face “GGG.” [Click Here To Read More]

[techdude69]

This whole belt & weight issue has become a joke. Both Cotto & Alvarez think there bigger than the sport! The WBC need to stay firm here and strip Alvared of the belt and hand it over to GGG while there is still integrity in the belts. This is got to stop!

[Eastlos]

Bull****, Nelo earn that belt he beat the man that beat the man, so the lineal title as well as the WBC are rightfully his. Like Oscar said let this fight marinate a bit first I wanna see Triple G fight Lee for the WBO title in March and Nelo fight Lemieux at 160 on cinco de mayo. So come September all four middleweight titles will be on the line once Nelo n Triple G get it on. Oscar could put this fight at Dallas where it will sell out Cowboys stadium in the first week

[SteveM]

This whole belt & weight issue has become a joke. Both Cotto & Alvarez think there bigger than the sport! The WBC need to stay firm here and strip Alvared of the belt and hand it over to GGG while there is still integrity in the belts. This is got to stop!

I'm more for the fights than the belts. I'd like to see them fight at 160 but if that isn't possible then 158 would be fine.

2 lbs doesn't seem like much but it often is. Remember how Geale looked when he came in at 157 vs Cotto - like a warmed up corpse. Only Team GGG know how 2 lbs would affect him.

So while I want to see the fight that is only if it's a fair fight where we get to see each fighter at least at 90% of their potential.

The WBC has a dilema. They can take the short term view and make up some on-the-fly bullshit that allows for Canelo to somehow hold on to his belt but also allows them to collect far more sanctioning fees yet diminishes their credibility even more.

Or they can take the long term view, stick to their principles, see their credibility enhanced yet make less money. I'm not holding my breath.

One thing that the WBC has done to gum up the works is put a 2 week limit on negotiations or strip Canelo (supposedly). That is no time at all. I would have been fine with a month or until December 31st. Putting that 2 week time limit on negotiations means the fight is less likely to get negotiated and as I started out with ... I'd rather see the fight.

[MDPopescu]

... David P. Greisman's article is placing almost everything into perspective.

Though, Canelo might even spin the WBC belt off and still hold the 'lineal' strap as The Ring is close to Oscar and has quite different regulations... No GGG fight needed soon (if ever)...

[alexander28]

Canelo needs a translator to fight for the tittle now. Ohh I forgot he has Godfather "Oscar" to speak on his behalf because he does not speak English.

[fladz]

"If we do fight, it's going to be at my weight class". What, the 155 weight class that you invented and in which you are the sole fighter? Nice one.

[bigdunny1]

How could you think cotto won that fight? He landed fewer punches then canelo despite throwing way more punches. He had a overall connect rate of 20%. And something insane like 15 or 17% power shots. So all he did was run from canelo and throw a ton of shots in the air off target. Low connect rate similar to what defensive wizards like Mayweather do to his opponents. Canelo won this fight easy landed more shots and at a higher connect rate and his shots did more damage. Cotto had too many rounds where he was completely ineffective. The one round where he stood his ground and traded he too a massive beating and got back on his bicycle the rest of the fight if he didn't do that he would of gotten knocked out. I gave cotto max 3 rounds.

[fredhopple]

Canelo does not need the Commie little g

Canelo does not need little g or the middleweight belt. g brings nothing to Canelo but a potential loss. Canelo can fight lesser opponents and still make his pesos.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Bull****, Nelo earn that belt he beat the man that beat the man, so the lineal title as well as the WBC are rightfully his. Like Oscar said let this fight marinate a bit first I wanna see Triple G fight Lee for the WBO title in March and Nelo fight Lemieux at 160 on cinco de mayo. So come September all four middleweight titles will be on the line once Nelo n Triple G get it on. Oscar could put this fight at Dallas where it will sell out Cowboys stadium in the first week

He either makes the fight or *****es out. GGG has waited long enough. If I were them I wouldn't fall for no empty promise of future fights and step aside fees.

Canelo needs to be a man of his word. **** this weak ****.

... David P. Greisman's article is placing almost everything into perspective.

Though, Canelo might even spin the WBC belt off and still hold the 'lineal' strap as The Ring is close to Oscar and has quite different regulations... No GGG fight needed soon (if ever)...

Close to Oscar? Oscar owns Ring. If they vacate the strap and claim they are JR.MW and Ring doesn't take action, it will make the lineage meaningless.

Canelo does not need little g or the middleweight belt. g brings nothing to Canelo but a potential loss. Canelo can fight lesser opponents and still make his pesos.

And this is what a vagina sounds like. Straight ***** ****. Canelo should just fight guys he can beat and never aim to be anything close to great. Let's live off of beating washed up former champs.

His legacy will be **** if he tries to back away now.

Canelo wanted the belt, he wanted to be MW champ. He can now say it, but most who know boxing knows it's not exactly the case. Waiting until GGG gets too old is a ***** move, championed by his fans who are frightened that GGG will mangle Ginger.