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    #91
    What does Mexican media say about Canelo fighting at 155 all the time? And what do they say about him fighting GGG?

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      #92
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      i think the reason people that watch boxing are confused is because this:

      canelo clearly landed the cleaner/flusher punches but cotto moved around more and threw more that didn't land clean= canelo wins a wide decision

      manny clearly lands the cleaner/flusher punches but floyd moved around more and threw more that didn't land clean= floyd wins a wide decision
      Do you watch boxing?

      There's more to scoring a fight then who punches harder. Cotto vs Canelo is far closer then what the judges had. Canelo still comes out on top, but it's by a round or two, because Cotto satisfied the other criteria for winning a round.

      And in case your forgot, here's the compubox stats for Floyd vs Manny:

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        #93
        Originally posted by Bardock View Post
        Did cotto not hydrate ?
        Yes. From 153.5(doesn't seem like he lost a bunch of water weight) he my have gained 5-6 pounds or so. So cotto was about 158-160 at the most. Canelo was at least 173-174 just be his looks. Looked gigantic. As soon as he got off the scale he swallowed a quart of water. So even after bothe rehydrated Canelo was at least 15 pounds more and in other words two divisions more than cotto.

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          #94
          Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
          Yes. From 153.5(doesn't seem like he lost a bunch of water weight) he my have gained 5-6 pounds or so. So cotto was about 158-160 at the most. Canelo was at least 173-174 just be his looks. Looked gigantic. As soon as he got off the scale he swallowed a quart of water. So even after bothe rehydrated Canelo was at least 15 pounds more and in other words two divisions more than cotto.
          lol Fck no. When has Cotto on hydrated back up only 5 or 6 pounds? They looked the same pretty much. Stop making excuses. The fight was won on skills, not size. Canelo was just the better fighter in every way. Canelo on average hydrates back up to 171.

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            #95
            Marquez and Chavez is punch drunk! clearly 9-3

            I think Marquez just setting up a easy payday against Cotto in the future for himself and Chavez is rumored to make a comeback and cotto is the perfect fighter to do it against.

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              #96
              Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
              Maybe I'll change my mind without alcohol in me and in hd. But canelo barely threw punches the first 6 rounds
              Of course your cheap ass didn't order the fight

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                #97
                Burrito eatin...sombrero wearing...border jumping...

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by SOL27 View Post
                  Do you watch boxing?

                  There's more to scoring a fight then who punches harder. Cotto vs Canelo is far closer then what the judges had. Canelo still comes out on top, but it's by a round or two, because Cotto satisfied the other criteria for winning a round.

                  And in case your forgot, here's the compubox stats for Floyd vs Manny:

                  i didn't say anything about punching harder now did i? i said cleaner/flusher. that is one of the scoring criteria after all. i don't see why a punch that grazes an opponent should count as much as one that lands fully flush and makes a big impact on his face. the rules also support me on this.

                  yes there are other criteria such as defense and in my opinion if one guy is landing the cleaner/flusher punches and getting hit with grazing punches he's showing the better defense since its not that hard to hit a guy with grazing punches and its very difficult to connect cleanly.

                  ring generalship and effective aggression are almost entirely subjective so you could say well one guy is outboxing the other and fighting his fight or you could say one guy is coming forward and making the fight. the other crtieria are just used to setup getting to the most important step which is clean punching.

                  also compubox is not accurate. this has been proven time and time again by many sources. i personally did my own compubox and had floyd outlanding manny by only 10 punches in the fight. now when you factor in that over half of floyd's punches were jabs and 90 percent of manny's were power punches to the head and body that gives manny an edge in my opinion. also when you add in that the majority of pac's punches were clean/flush punches and the majority of floyd's were not clean then yes I had manny winning. just like i had canelo beating cotto because he landed cleaner and flusher. just like i had hopkins beating calzaghe because he landed cleaner and flusher etc..

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by DoubleStandar View Post


                    Tv azteca i believe
                    that graphic must be backwards because it has Canelo winning the first round, and ultimately a 117-111 score. Nobody on the planet gave Canelo the 1st round.......

                    also it gives 8 and 12 to canelo, which imo were cotto rounds.......
                    Last edited by OnePunch; 11-22-2015, 06:13 PM.

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                      Originally posted by DoubleStandar View Post
                      From marquez to chavez sr to the mexican boxing feed to the real mexicans they had Cotto winning or a draw. **** they had the fight 117-111 in favor of Cotto in the mexican feed. I personally had it 114-114. Very close fight
                      Idk, I had Canelo winning.

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