Comments Thread For: Ramirez: I’ll Be Bigger Star, Better Boxer Than Canelo

[deanrw]

I personally do not see anything special in the guy. He seems to be a generally solid fighter, but that is as far as it goes.

[bigdunny1]

Are you crazy? Zuniga, Vlasov, Edwards, Lorenzo and Rogelio Medina are not tomato cans. You are crazy.

He's young and has goods things like a very solid left hand and a very good stamina.


LOL

Stop saying ****. The natural weight of this guy is 168 pounds, no more. He has a big height but that doesnt mean nothing:

Read about this guys:

Eusebio Pedroza

Alexis Arguello

Celestino Caballero


Following your very s.t.upid logic they were really 140 pounds natural fighters. LOL

Hearns is another...

Then why has he ALREADY fought at light heavy weight? Early this year fought at 170 but he's a natural 6'3 168 pound fighter? Stop it. He's fighting at 168 now but at some point in the near future his body will force him up to 175. And he's fought NONE of the top 10 ranked guys at 168. His competition has been seriously lacking. He's the same age as Canelo yet look at the names on his resume and now look at Ramirez's resume.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Then why has he ALREADY fought at light heavy weight? Early this year fought at 170 but he's a natural 6'3 168 pound fighter? Stop it. He's fighting at 168 now but at some point in the near future his body will force him up to 175. And he's fought NONE of the top 10 ranked guys at 168. His competition has been seriously lacking. He's the same age as Canelo yet look at the names on his resume and now look at Ramirez's resume.

That's normal! Oscar Valdez has fights in 130 pounds and he's a natural featherweight!

Golovkin has one fight on 168 pounds and that doesnt mean he is a super middleweight.

Look the récord of Ramirez, just had a fight on 170, 2 pounds more of 168(nothing) and you are saying he is a 175 pounds natural fighter.

Ridicolous...

Ramirez can stay like 4 years fighting on the 168 pounds division.

Last weights of Ramirez:


168( vs winner of the Murray/Abraham)

168 (today he made the weight EASY)

170

167 1/2

167 1/2

166

165

161

160

160

159 1/2

158

159

And he is a NATURAL LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTER...

lol

Incredible...

He is young and he made that natural jump of weight of all the youngs fighters. Thats all.

And he is working very good on 168 pounds. He is not a NATURAL 175 fighter.


And? They are not in a top-ten but they are not tomato cans. That was my point.

[bigdunny1]

Mexican_Puppet
When did GGG EVER weight 168? I think the heaviest he's ever been is 161. If you are talking about him in talks to move up in weight that's only because he was trying to make big money fight not because he's a big middleweight or struggling with weight at 160. I bet guys like you said when Chavez Jr was 24 and 25 that he was a natural Middleweight too. No he was a tall natural light heavyweight who was young and squeezed his body down. By 26 he could no longer shrink his body. Now that fool couldn't make 160 if you chopped off his legs. Same will be for Ramirez who at some point his body will force him up to light heavyweight. 4 years at 168? I would love to take that bet with you.

Ramirez for the Vlasov on fight night came into the ring re-hydrated to 182 pounds according to HBO unofficial scales. For comparison Kovelev the best light heavyweight in the world came in to the ring his last fight weighing unofficially 183lbs. But you think Ramirez is a natural 168 pounder? Stop it.

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

don't know who he is so I doubt he will be bigger then canelo

[Trinidad_Fan]

Bigger star? Doubtful.
Does he have blonde hair and blue eyes?
That would be the only way.

Better boxer?
Not too much of a stretch.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Mexican_Puppet
When did GGG EVER weight 168? I think the heaviest he's ever been is 161. If you are talking about him in talks to move up in weight that's only because he was trying to make big money fight not because he's a big middleweight or struggling with weight at 160. I bet guys like you said when Chavez Jr was 24 and 25 that he was a natural Middleweight too. No he was a tall natural light heavyweight who was young and squeezed his body down. By 26 he could no longer shrink his body. Now that fool couldn't make 160 if you chopped off his legs. Same will be for Ramirez who at some point his body will force him up to light heavyweight. 4 years at 168? I would love to take that bet with you.

Ramirez for the Vlasov on fight night came into the ring re-hydrated to 182 pounds according to HBO unofficial scales. For comparison Kovelev the best light heavyweight in the world came in to the ring his last fight weighing unofficially 183lbs. But you think Ramirez is a natural 168 pounder? Stop it.

Come on, man, you cant compare Chavez Jr with Ramirez...

Chavez Jr nornally rehydrated more of 20 pounds in his fights in 160 pounds. Ramirez the normal: 12 pounds. All the fighters up to 122 división rehydrated 12/14 pounds pounds:

Lucas: 140-154
Vasyl: 126-138
Lara: 154-166
Ramirez: 170-182 168-180

What's your problem, man?


Abner Mares was in 138 pounds in his fight vs Jhonny Gonzalez.

Is a natural 126 fighter? No, he is not.

Maidana vs Floyd was in 166 pounds.


Is a natural 154 fighter? No, he is not.

Your lógic is this:

Ramirez:

190 cm

"HEY, HE IS A NATURAL LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT"...

[bigdunny1]

First did I say I have a problem with it? No. If you can squeeze your body and make the weight fine but that takes a toll and he's too damn big at some point he will not be able to do it anymore. That's why I said he's a natural Light Heavyweight. His fight against Derek Edwards he looked 2 weight classes bigger then him. That's why I laughed at people saying oh Canelo is just fighting smaller lighter fighters. This dude is 6'3 and came into the ring this year the same rehydrated weight as the best Light Heavyweight in the world. And just last year was fighting Middleweights. You sound foolish saying Canelo is fighting smaller guys then praise Ramirez. He is a big boy dude will not be ale to stay at 168 for long. With his size and frame and the fact he came into the ring at 182 this year he is destined for the Light Heavyweight. And all those guys you named will move up in weight except probably Matthysee because he's too short.

[Mexican_Puppet]

First did I say I have a problem with it? No. If you can squeeze your body and make the weight fine but that takes a toll and he's too damn big at some point he will not be able to do it anymore. That's why I said he's a natural Light Heavyweight. His fight against Derek Edwards he looked 2 weight classes bigger then him. That's why I laughed at people saying oh Canelo is just fighting smaller lighter fighters. This dude is 6'3 and came into the ring this year the same rehydrated weight as the best Light Heavyweight in the world. And just last year was fighting Middleweights. You sound foolish saying Canelo is fighting smaller guys then praise Ramirez. He is a big boy dude will not be ale to stay at 168 for long. With his size and frame and the fact he came into the ring at 182 this year he is destined for the Light Heavyweight. And all those guys you named will move up in weight except probably Matthysee because he's too short.

1-Derek Edwards its a midget for his weight class, he has the same height that Canelo or Sammy Vasquez Jr, a welter weight. But he was in a similar weight. The height is one thing, the weight is other, Ramirez has a great height but this doesn't mean he is a light heavy weight, and less, a natural light heavyweight.

2-I don't said anything about Canelo.

3-Yes, because he is young, Oscar Valdez in 2012 was fighting in 122 pounds, now in 126 pounds and sometimes in 130 pounds.

4-Stop writting bull****s, Kovalev normally rehydrated in 185+ pounds, vs Hopkins and vs Pascal he was in 189 pounds!

Any 168 normal fighter, with 2 pounds more, in the fight night rehydrated in 180, 182 pounds:


Lucian Bute VS Edison Miranda - Contested at Super Middleweight

Bute: 182
Miranda: 185

Yeah, following your logic Bute is a natural light heavy weight because his weight vs Miranda was the same THAT ONEEEEEEEEEE TIME KOVALEV HAD IN HIS FIGHTS... Come on...

You are confused, Ramirez has a big height, like Bute, like Alexis Arguello, like Eusebio Pedroza, like Celestino Caballero, like Hearns, etc.

But the guy rehydrated the normal, 12, 14 pounds, he is not like Chavez Jr....