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    #81
    Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
    You hide behind belts and rankings when we know it's about resumes. Who even argues the # of times a certain legend won a belt or was ranked at a particular time?






    You'll see me in some migga faaights migga migga faaights.

    Dan, Gavin and future ATG Diego Chaves who lost every time he stepped up.


    Algieri was not only a World Champion, but beat a name in Provodnikov who came in to that fight with a lot of momentum.


    I'm Team Brook over Khan but it always cracks me up when you take the piss out of Brooks accent.

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      #82
      khan isnt p4p but it's MORE ridiculous to see brook breaking into the top 10 when his career is so irrelevant

      p4p lists are paid advertising

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        #83
        Brook vs Porter wasn't really close.

        Diaz vs Porter II was also not close.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Cruisin' View Post
          khan isnt p4p but it's MORE ridiculous to see brook breaking into the top 10 when his career is so irrelevant

          p4p lists are paid advertising
          Glad you can admit that. I think Brook has skills but the Porter fight was a bit of an illusion since Diaz already beat Porter and had Diaz got a W instead of a Draw, most people wouldn't overrate Porter the way they do. In other words, it would have seriously lessened the perceived "impact" of that victory for Brook if Porter hadn't escaped with a Draw against Diaz.

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            #85
            Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
            Glad you can admit that. I think Brook has skills but the Porter fight was a bit of an illusion since Diaz already beat Porter and had Diaz got a W instead of a Draw, most people wouldn't overrate Porter the way they do. In other words, it would have seriously lessened the perceived "impact" of that victory for Brook if Porter hadn't escaped with a Draw against Diaz.
            Why didn't he beat porter again then? If he was better than him?

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              #86
              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post

              What kind of idiot logic is that We're not talking about resumes either, we're talking who's the P4P best. Right now, Khan was troubled by Algieri in his last fight and hasn't fought anyone top since getting flattened in 4 rounds.

              Diego Chavez is better than anyone Khan has fought since Garcia it's that simple. Nevermind Shawn Porter who'd most likely be Khan's best win ever.
              Based on what? Oh rrrrright he lost to top fighters, Algieri actually beat one and was a World champion, Chris has proven himself at least once, Chaves=0.


              Embarrassing is:

              -Gave Thurman a tough fight before losing doe
              -Drew with Bradley doe
              -Was winning vs Rios b4 the DQ doe.

              You do realize your whole premise of bigging up Chaves revolves around "ifs and buts"? Fact is Chaves goes in to this fight as someone who lost all his real fights and never became a champ.

              May be Chaves becomes a champ later or beats someone, but those accomplishment are irrelevant to this event cuz Brook fought the guy coming off a loss and draw. People who beat Johnny Nelson early in his career didn't beat the World champion, but the journeyman Johnny.



              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              Yes Ring or TBRB - who both have Chaves in the their top 10. Unlike you I don't pull up ABC rankings and I certainly don't take a million explanations to understand a simple point.

              Yeah Chaves lost two fights. Against Bradley and Thurman Khan wouldn't even get in the ring with those guys ffs.

              You are literally crying every day because Brook is universially considered as a better fighter than Khan. That's why Ring has him in the top 10, that's why he's ranked higher than Khan in every ranking.

              "Malignaggi in 2010 doe" You're embarrassing yourself.

              Please also note. Whenever I refer to rankings, it is always either Ring or TBRB.
              Bradley was a Draw.

              What does Khan getting in the ring with those guys got to do with Chaves losing or getting a draw? Oh & Bradley was the one who didn't want none of Khan.

              No, I just cringe at the pathetic joke that are rankings and even worse you using them as a shield to deflect convo on resumes.

              Remember, while Senchenko never beat a name he was atleast a World champion, a proper one. Chaves has never beaten a name nor won a title, so post Chaves, Senchenko is still the 2nd best win on Kell's resume. How does it feel?




              Adding a million smiley=LacedUp is right.

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                #87
                Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                Why didn't he beat porter again then? If he was better than him?
                Porter adjusted against Diaz in the rematch, he ducked down very low and came up with sweeping shots. Brook's trainer saw this and adjusted the Diaz game plan slightly to incorporate all the clinching so when you see Porter duck down getting ready to throw a sweeping shot Brook would immediately jump in and clinch. That's why studying fight tape can be crucial, Brook's team simply followed the Diaz game plan and added all that clinching to overcome the adjustments Porter had already made to the original Diaz game plan.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
                  Based on what? Oh rrrrright he lost to top fighters, Algieri actually beat one and was a World champion, Chris has proven himself at least once, Chaves=0.


                  Embarrassing is:

                  -Gave Thurman a tough fight before losing doe
                  -Drew with Bradley doe
                  -Was winning vs Rios b4 the DQ doe.

                  You do realize your whole premise of bigging up Chaves revolves around "ifs and buts"? Fact is Chaves goes in to this fight as someone who lost all his real fights and never became a champ.

                  May be Chaves becomes a champ later or beats someone, but those accomplishment are irrelevant to this event cuz Brook fought the guy coming off a loss and draw. People who beat Johnny Nelson early in his career didn't beat the World champion, but the journeyman Johnny.





                  Bradley was a Draw.

                  What does Khan getting in the ring with those guys got to do with Chaves losing or getting a draw? Oh & Bradley was the one who didn't want none of Khan.

                  No, I just cringe at the pathetic joke that are rankings and even worse you using them as a shield to deflect convo on resumes.

                  Remember, while Senchenko never beat a name he was atleast a World champion, a proper one. Chaves has never beaten a name nor won a title, so post Chaves, Senchenko is still the 2nd best win on Kell's resume. How does it feel?




                  Adding a million smiley=LacedUp is right.
                  How is it embarrassing to lose to Thurman and draw with Bradley? In what world? It's more embarrassing to be the laughing stock of the boxing world after 12 rounds with Pacquiao. "He's a C level fighter" - Amir Khan.

                  Who cares? I'm not saying he's a world champion. But Khan or anyone else in the WW division aren't fighting anyone better than that. So what's the issue? Chaves is a tough, solid fight at 147 and could very well beat Khan for example. Very possibly.

                  I don't understand your analogies which are just totally all over the place. You would rather discredit Brook than anything else. Why not focus on your boyfriend Amir Khan? Maybe Brook should do like him - Fight once on Spike TV, a fight nobody demanded or even gave a crap about, and take the rest of the year off only to scream: "Manny is ducking me. It's that speed, power, explosiveness. They know it's too much for him. It seems like I'm the one willing to fight everyone, nobody is willing to fight me".

                  "Brook's not interesting for me right now".

                  What's cringey is that you think it's better to abort proper rankings and fight "names". And it's just because that's what your idol says.

                  What's even more cringey is that he looked like *****e against Algieri, only to turn around and say Floyd is ducking him.

                  And you and the rest of his little piglets thinks he's right. That is cringey.
                  Last edited by LacedUp; 10-14-2015, 08:25 PM.

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