Originally posted by Boba Fett
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So, do you clowns still think Matthysse is better than Maidana?? (lol Salim_Shady)
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Originally posted by Boba Fett View Postthe sad thing is he's so one dimensional that Broner would completely shut him out... I know Lucas can **** but he doesn't have the feints or ring generalship to knock out top guys...
their styles would be great...
Broner won't have the length or jab that postal has...
Lucas-broner is still a great fight to make, their styles matchup perfectly
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostI did have him rated very highly. I guess I had him at the same level as Maidana. I thought he fought poorly and stayed down when he could have easily beat the count which is something Maidana would never do. I am a big Maidana fan and I was a big Matthysse fan but I became an ex fan tonight.
Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View PostSecond fight is where Mayweather uncoincidentally went into clinch overdrive.
Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Postmatyssee just another fighter people over rate like crazy cause he had good power. Im honestly tired of people thinking fighters with good power are untouchable it gets old the so called warrior who fights for the fans the bully just quit on his knees. lets see if all u cotto haters who are matysee fans give him the same treatment
Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View PostHe also had a better finish then Thurman on Karass.
Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Posttalking about skills? i still think he is more polished than maidanaOriginally posted by Dean_Razorback View Posti love chino, and he got better with garcia. i just think lucas is the most polished boxer of the 2, that doesn't mean he will beat him especially not now.
I have proof Maidana is a better fighter than Lucas. I go by evidence, not hearsay.
Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Posti agree i never understood why people ever thought different. for some reason people have always underrated maidana and completely overrated matysee i never understood that
Originally posted by brickcityboxing View PostMathysse was always a CLOWN... Easiest money I've EVER made tonight. Dude can't seal the deal
Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostI still think Mattysee's resume is better than Maidana's.
Both have lost to pretty much the same level comp and has been victims to robberies.
Maidana's saving grace is his beat down of Mayweather in a fight he was robbed in.
Originally posted by soul_survivor View Postwell apart from beating broner who wasnt all that and making ortiz quit who always quits, maidana hasnt done a lot either. he is someone who consistently loses the big one too.
Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View PostWhy would people think Lucas is better than Maidana? Maidana won titles at 140 and 147 and is naturally bigger. Threads just trying to start gossip.
Here's the thread //krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=679666
Originally posted by Boba Fett View Postdid you even see the pain Maidana was in..he never saw the shot coming a shot like that even from Khan would drop and finish 90% of fighters out there if anything it shows how much more heart than Lucas Maidana actually has lol
you've obviously never had a serious shot to the liver or you wouldn't disrespect a truly courageous moment like that
Originally posted by Zaroku View PostMaidana has "it"!
That ability to get punished, go down, & get up! Win, lose, or draw.
I leave the inference to you.
But Lucas showed clearly, that he ain't no 'chino' !
Cost me 300 dollars. My fault.
Postol made him quit, 5x the money. And he ....
Cool... The better man won.
May your love of boxing out shine any favoritism for any boxer.
May our sense of fairness in the ring be measured by the skills each warrior brings.
May we all allow our favorite boxers the right to fail, and we still remain fans.
Let's let deeds, and heart, not words or hype determine who the best man is.
Let us never see color in the ring, except blue & red corners.
Let us always be fair to each and every man who laces them up, and gives it his all. Win, lose or draw.
In defeat no excuses, in victory no prideful boasts.
Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostI wish they would bump the old lucas threads....
I called him one dimensional, and fanboys freaked out...
I like lucas, still wanna see him fight, especially if its vs broner
Originally posted by Boba Fett View Postthe sad thing is he's so one dimensional that Broner would completely shut him out... I know Lucas can **** but he doesn't have the feints or ring generalship to knock out top guys...
Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostLol, I've taken more wicked shots than I can remember but that has nothing to do with Maidana going to his knees for Kahn. If that fight never happened you guys would be claiming that Maidana would brutally KO Amir, yadda yadda. Well, Kahn dropped Maidana and beat him in points. Deal with it.
Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostI would love to see broner vs lucas...
their styles would be great...
Broner won't have the length or jab that postal has...
Lucas-broner is still a great fight to make, their styles matchup perfectly
Broner wins that one if Maidana didn't ruin him. However, AB does have more heart than Lucas so he could still win that fight. It's just that Broner is a changed fighter since fighting Maidana.
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Originally posted by punchr View PostHe doesn't have balls. He has the courage of a bully. Once you take away his power he has nothing. This was his shot at a world title and he quit.
Mayweather got his ass kicked that fight.
I knew he was overrated. He was a good fighter. But never as good as Maidana. Maidana is certified gangster. Maidana goes to places that very few men are willing to go. He's more than power and brawling.
The bottom line is Maidana beat him first. Soto Karass was physically and mentally at his best for the Maidana fight. Thurman gets KO'd by the Soto Karass Chino faced.
Do you have any evidence that Matthysse is "more polished than Maidana?" Or are you just guessing/talking out of your ass?
I have proof Maidana is a better fighter than Lucas. I go by evidence, not hearsay.
Most people are ******s. They don't study fights like me. I know how to comprehend fights.
He finally got a shot at a world title and he quit like a bitch. That was a disgrace to the sport. You're supposed to fight through a broken, bloodied nose, swollen eyes, cuts, busted lips, etc. He showed his character.
Maidana already established himself before Broner or Mayweather. Only naysayers underestimated him. Those same naysayers are now picking Keith Thurman to beat Maidana. They'll learn. Maidana would beat Thurman into submission.
Boxing is about more than resumes -- it's about what the fighter shows in the ring. The heart, The balls. The will to win. Maidana has these intangible qualities and displays them each time he fights. He lets it all hang out. Old school.
More than 50 percent of NSB claimed Matthysse was a better fighter than Maidana. I guess now they know. ******s. Salim_Shady was the leading Lucas fanboy/Maidana hater. It's okay. Me, Maidana, and other fans who know what kind of fighter Chino is are having the last laugh. We knew. They didn't.
Here's the thread //krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=679666
He doesn't know the dark places Maidana's been. Most poster who never fought don't fully realize how much will and courage it takes to get up from a serious, hurting knockdown and fight back with serious intentions.
Now you know!
Nice.
I like Lucas but I never ate the hype the way these clowns did.
The Broner that fought Maidana makes Matthysse quit. Sadly, Maidana ruined Broner's boxing career so Matthysse-Broner is probably a toss up. Nevertheless, Broner has more heart than Lucas.
You're a clown. Matthysse got destroyed. Get over it. Stop being a saltly little bitch. Face the facts. Maidana > Matthysse
They're both B-level.
Broner wins that one if Maidana didn't ruin him. However, AB does have more heart than Lucas so he could still win that fight. It's just that Broner is a changed fighter since fighting Maidana.
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Maidana has come up big several times already, like his upset wins over Ortiz and Broner and his close effort Mayweather, as well as his close war with Khan.
Matthysse on the other hand, has come up short, even in his favorite role against DSG. Matthysse was favored to win inside the distance vs Garcia on the odds. He was also favored to win inside the distance against Postol. He always comes up short.
With that said, you can't take away his wins over Soto, Provodnikov and Peterson. And still a fight between Maidana and Matthysse would be interesting but obviously Maidana would be favored to win, possibly by TKO at this point ever since the Garcia, Molina and Postol knock downs, Matthysse looks much more vulnerable now.
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Always thought Maidana was better than Matthysse.
People just don't understand things. Madana didn't have a truly competent corner until Garcia. His sparring leading up to fights was horrid. His training methods were not truly evolved until here recently. How far he got before that was based on sheer grit and willpower. But the man had all this untapped talent roaring for development.
It's clear watching the Mayweather fights that this is the case. He was boxing Floyd in the center of the ring, making Floyd miss, hitting Floyd with authority and intelligence. Feints, cutting off the ring, odd angles, and clubbing power. He even pull countered a pull counter at one point!
Only thing Matts would do against May is follow like a lost puppy in his straight up and down stance looking hapless as jabs and lead rights bounced off his dome. Real talk.
Maidana>Matthysse
That this is even still a question with some people is just staggering. Cant figure it out. What do they prefer Matt's tattoos or some bs?
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Originally posted by Salim_Shady View PostStyles make fights, it could be like the Devon fight all over again. Plus there's no need to be a **** about it, Maidana has had better opportunities than Lucas who always got hard stylistic match ups (slick fighters). Lucas would never lose to Kotelnik etc. All about getting the right opportunities and Lucas had two title shots in his whole career.
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Maidana and Lucas are close and Lucas they've both said they wont fight each other as there are plenty of other fights. And now I see you trashing his countrymen to be spiteful at me, you might be a Chino fan boy but he certainly would not like reading this bull****.
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Matthysse gave up because he couldn't see not because he was hurt. He was waiting for his vision to come back but it didn't. Postol was hurt everytime Lucas landed and he said Lucas had very good power as his record suggests. Postol used his length and skills to their maximum to beat Lucas who is also a good boxer. Maidana would not fight in the same way and that's why I have Lucas winning. It's my opinion and neither of us can PROVE either of our opinions so its all speculation. Also we have no idea how Chino will be coming back after gaining 100lbs. Also common opponents Alexander and Corley say Matthysse hit harder. Lucas dropped Corley 9 times (mainly body shots which Chino doesnt like) and stopped him. He went the distance with Chino.
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