Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — Wilder Wiser to Wait on Klitschko

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by David P. Greisman - Little drives the ire of boxing fans like one fighter saying that he won’t fight another. They don’t want reasons that come off like excuses. They don’t want business decisions that sound more like blatant ducking. They just want good fights, and they want good fighters to face each other.

So normally a statement like the one Deontay Wilder made immediately after his win over Johann Duhaupas this past Saturday would be widely derided. He had said before how he wanted to face Wladimir Klitschko, the true heavyweight champion of the world.

He still wants to face Klitschko — but not yet.

“Hopefully we can do it by the end of next year sometime,” Wilder said in his post-fight interview. “We’ve got to get these mandatories out of the way as well, too. People have to stay patient. The key is to stay patient. This is a process and it is also a business. That fight is surely coming around as long as I keep winning, which I will, and as long as he keep winning. That should come around real soon and soon we’ll have an undisputed world heavyweight champion, which is me, baby.” [Click Here To Read More]

[TheThirdEye]

By the way Sukhotsky was 7th at the WBC, Stevenson was a super-middleweight himself before Bika took his chances at lite-heavyweight, and Karpency who beat Dawson, was listed 9th at the WBC.
About team Kove/Duva, they just want cheap easy fights; a lot those Mohamedi's Pizza slice $1. Hiding behind HBO's lower purse, Duva doesn't want to taste the RISK Factor called Stevenson, nor Egis "SugarDaddy" Klimas or Kovalev. They prefer to lie and pointing their finger on Stevenson, so boxing fans stays blind about how fake they truly are. That's why promoter Michel and Haymon are working hard to find a solution to force Kovalev to back-up his trash talking against Stevenson in a ring.
Kovalev wont be able to hyde & run his mouth for much long, One clean left & goodbye Kove, sweet dreams.

[glenn mcrory]

By the way Sukhotsky was 7th at the WBC, Stevenson was a super-middleweight himself before Bika took his chances at lite-heavyweight, and Karpency who beat Dawson, was listed 9th at the WBC.
About team Kove/Duva, they just want cheap easy fights; a lot those Mohamedi's Pizza slice $1. Hiding behind HBO's lower purse, Duva doesn't want to taste the RISK Factor called Stevenson, nor Egis "SugarDaddy" Klimas or Kovalev. They prefer to lie and pointing their finger on Stevenson, so boxing fans stays blind about how fake they truly are. That's why promoter Michel and Haymon are working hard to find a solution to force Kovalev to back-up his trash talking against Stevenson in a ring.
Kovalev wont be able to hyde & run his mouth for much long, One clean left & goodbye Kove, sweet dreams.

Yes, because Stevenson is known for his iron-clad jaw. Its not like he's already been one shot-KTFO by Boone. Oh wait...

[Slowhand]

By the way Sukhotsky was 7th at the WBC, Stevenson was a super-middleweight himself before Bika took his chances at lite-heavyweight, and Karpency who beat Dawson, was listed 9th at the WBC.
About team Kove/Duva, they just want cheap easy fights; a lot those Mohamedi's Pizza slice $1. Hiding behind HBO's lower purse, Duva doesn't want to taste the RISK Factor called Stevenson, nor Egis "SugarDaddy" Klimas or Kovalev. They prefer to lie and pointing their finger on Stevenson, so boxing fans stays blind about how fake they truly are. That's why promoter Michel and Haymon are working hard to find a solution to force Kovalev to back-up his trash talking against Stevenson in a ring.
Kovalev wont be able to hyde & run his mouth for much long, One clean left & goodbye Kove, sweet dreams.

This post tells a lot about this "Third Eye" you watch boxing with.. (here´s a hint: it´s not on your forehead)

[TheThirdEye]

This post tells a lot about this "Third Eye" you watch boxing with.. (here´s a hint: it´s not on your forehead)

"We will find a way for it to happen, said promoter Yvon Michel. We are trying to control the mandatory challenger so that Kovalev have no other choice but to choose to fight for the unification. We really try to put all the pressure we can. "

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[TheThirdEye]

Yes, because Stevenson is known for his iron-clad jaw. Its not like he's already been one shot-KTFO by Boone. Oh wait...

it's coming!

I believe you didn't know why Kovalev have fought Boone twice, do you know why? In the first fight, Kovalev won by split decision, he didn't knock down Boone at all. However Boone dropped Kovalev on the canvas in the 7th round, out of 8. Kovalev could barely get up and make it til the end, Boone got robbed that night. Just like Stevenson got robbed against him, when he was standing up and ready inside the count of 3.
To sign with Kathy Duva, the test/condition was him to fight Boone a second time.

Sergey Kovalev STARTED A CAREER of a professional boxer in 2009 in the USA, and his first 9 fights he finished with knock-outs in the first or second rounds. His first really serious fight was in October 2010 with an American Darnell Boone, when he had to fight all 8 rounds and won with great difficulty; his victory was decided by a split decision of judges. “Boone appeared to be not an easy opponent to fight at all. I must admit, I wrongly dismissed my opponent. Now I gained a great experience, and will change my approach to the next fights”, said Kovalev.

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ATLANTA, GEORGIA (October 12, 2010)—This past Saturday night in Atlanta, Light Heavyweight sensation Sergey Kovalev ran his record to a perfect 10-0 with 9 KO’s as he was taken distance for the first time in his career and scored an eight round decision over veteran upset specialist Darnell Boone.
This was a great learning experience for Kovalev, who was sent to canvas for the first time in his career in round seven but stood up to win victory.

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Stevenson will finish him

[Teetotaler]

Thats actually part of the strategy thats been going on in boxing for a while. Waiting for the opponent to start slipping.
Leonard did it to hagler
whitiker did it to chavez
mayweather did it topacquiao
and now wilder is doing it with wlad

But the ten count gave me a good laugh though. Good article

[Larry the boss]

Wlad would hurt Wilder

[Cuban Linx]

No, I don't think he should. Don't let someone else get the glory of beating Klitschko before you.

[sterilizer]

“I’m the younger guy and the more time that pass by, that’s an advantage for me,”

Wow was that a coward's statement or what? I mean the guy is 29. It's not like he s a green, inexperienced and drained guy like Canelo was vs. Floyd, when Canelo was only 23 and his opponent 36.

I mean there are many examples of cowardly "fighters" waiting for the "right moment" to fight their biggest foes, that means, either when they are over the hill or when someone else already did the work for him of rendering them damaged goods.

Here's a few recent examples:

1) Floyd vs. injured Pacquiao, when Manny was already damaged goods because of the brutal knockout vs. Marquez. IOW, Marques did all the work for Floyd. The Manny that beat up De la Hoya mercilessly, would have beat up Floyd as well, because at that point Manny was in top shape both physically and mentally. After the fight with Marquez he was in no good shape any more.

2) Cotto vs. old and injured Martinez, when Sergio was damaged goods: injured knees, injuries vs. Chavez Jr., and more injuries vs. Murray in a fight the latter won but was robbed, and everybody (including Roach and Cotto of course) saw that Martinez was ready for the kill. Also Martinez was 39 already, ai he was over the hill notwithstanding his injury issues.

3) Floyd vs. green Canelo, when Canelo was a naive 23-year old and he was totally drained to boot, because of the catch weight issue. Right now he is less naive, stronger, smarter, but of course Floyd would never fight him now at middle weight, nor would he fight someone like Golovkin at such weight. But I'm pretty sure he would fight a much easier opponent such as Cotto himself.

4) Manny vs. old De la Hoya. Simply put, Manny was at his best shape ever, while De la Hoya was at his worst, both physically and mentally. De la Hoya got a super-embarrassing beat down that, in his top shape, would never ever had occurred.

5) Floyd vs. old De la Hoya. A story similar to the previous one. A top-shape Floyd vs an over the hill De la Hoya. Yet the latter dominated a few rounds and never ever showed any fear or respect for Floyd, unlike his fight with Pac. The result says it all: vs. Floyd De la Hoya got a split decision. Vs. Manny, he had to embarrassingly quit in his stall, with a beat up face and body.

6) Old Shane Mosley vs. several fighters, since he became 39 (Mayweather, Pacquiao, Alvarez, Mundine). Had he fought any of these guys when he was at his peak, the outcome could have likely been different.



7) De la Hoya vs. old and busted JCC senior, twice (not only was Chavvez damaged goods already, but he was also having drug and alcohol abuse at the moment so he was far from being in tp shape, whereas De la Hoya was young, hungry, in peak form, top speed, probably the greatest shape of his boxing life. It's truly strange that exactly what he did to JCC senior (made him embarrassingly quit in his stall), was done to him in a very similar fashion, by Many Pacquiao. If that's not fate, IDK what it is.

Bottom line, a "fighter" that waits for his top rival to become old, injured or otherwise completely out of top form, and then finally accepts to fight him, is just one thing: A COWARD.

I am not sure if in all cases above, the fighter with the huge advantage die WAIT on purpose for their foe to become past his prime and/or injured on purpose, like Deontay is evidently doing right now. If Klitshko can NOW be considered to be still in some sort of "top form" even today, Wilder should take him on NOW, NO EXCUSES.