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    Interview with Groves trainer

    Sorry if it's already been posted. But thought this was a good interview with Paddy Fitzpatrick, George Groves's trainer :

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    Groves can benefit from new coach



    WHILE boxing coach Paddy Fitzpatrick still says he has the utmost respect for George Groves, he feels he has worked with him for the last time, following his third defeat in a world title fight at the weekend.

    The first two defeats were to the legendary Carl Froch, the first an extremely controversial stoppage, followed by the famous Wembley grudge match attended by 80,000 and watched by millions on Sky, in which Froch knocked out the challenger with a massive right in the eighth round.

    Groves regrouped with two victories but his coach feels coming back from last weekend’s defeat to Badou Jack will be the toughest test yet.

    “He’s had to deal with a fantastic amount of stress and, I tell you what, I tip my hat to him for the way he has dealt with it. When you think of the stress of a man for his first world title in his own country, with 20,000 people booing him and slagging him off and telling him he’ll be sparked out in a round, for him to go in and handle that stress and turn the crowd on its head. For him to then go and sell 80,000 at Wembley and handle that stress. For him to then come back after that and fight Chris Rebrasse for the European crown just across the road from where he got knocked out. He’s handled stress exceptionally but Saturday night was a whole new thing for him; I’m not too sure how he’ll handle that.”

    There has been little discussion between the two since the defeat but he was disappointed to see the fighter delete his twitter account, feeling it wasn’t the right thing to do given the thousands of supporters who followed it.

    “Since the fight we haven’t really spoken, to be honest with you. His wife was with him [after the fight] and she was very upset and she wasn’t necessarily saying the right things to one or two of us around him so there was no point in us being in that situation where there was only going to be uncomfortableness and no chat.

    “He’s deleted his twitter account now and, I hate to say it, but there’s that old saying of decide in haste and repent at leisure. It took him a lot of hard work over two years to build up those followers, I think he had a quarter of a million followers and that’s a lot of people who are mainly there to support you, enjoy what you do and like you.

    “He has upset a lot of them because my twitter account has blown up with abuse. Why hasn’t he even said something to his fans that spent thousands of pounds travelling to see him and so on and so forth. You can understand that and I think he’s made that decision a bit too quickly. I hope he either realises it or somebody else catches him and says ‘George, slow down, go speak to the public, switch the twitter back on and say a few things’.”

    Mental side

    Fitzpatrick has no doubt that Groves has the talent to become a world champion but says getting the mental side right might not be a simple thing now, after another defeat.

    “Physically, that man has everything it takes to be the world champion. He had everything it took to beat Jack the other night. The proof is there of that, he lost a split decision; it could easily have gone the other way. He had enough to beat Jack, who is a world champion; he has beaten James De Gale already, who is a world champion. He had two excellent fights with Carl Froch, who was an excellent world champion. Physically, that man has got everything it takes to be a world champion. Now, mentally, I think it’s going to be very difficult. If the signs were that it wasn’t difficult, he wouldn’t have deleted his twitter account, he would have just got his head down for a few days.”

    If Groves is to one day take a world title, it will be without Fitzpatrick, he says.

    “It’s me that’s saying this now but if George was to come back, he would need, and I think it would be better, to be with a different trainer. We haven’t had a long career together, where you can say we’ve done A, B, C, been through C, D, E together and that’s it.

    “We have been slagged off as a team from the very beginning. I’m an extremely thick-skinned man. I don’t care about being slagged off. I’ll take constructive criticism but just being slagged off, I wouldn’t listen to it anyway. But if George was going to try again and get it right the next time, it would only be fair to him and he’d only be fair to himself if he changed everything. He would have to be able to go into a fight and know if it went wrong the last time and the time before, now it’s all different; I’m giving myself the best opportunity.”

    He feels Groves needs to change things, while he feels he needs to improve his relationship with the public too. With that in mind, he feels leaving the twittersphere was short-sighted, even if people were going to be posting stuff that was hardly helpful when he’s despondent.

    “I’ve got nothing but full respect for the man, I’ve enjoyed our journey, even the crap bits, because we’ve been in it as a team and we’ve achieved a lot and overcome a lot. But he has still yet to achieve a goal that is physically and technically well within his grasp.
    “Mentally and emotionally, I don’t know. He definitely needs a break and there would be no shame either in having a chat to somebody about it over time, somebody that could clear his head out.

    “If George were to come back, he would need to come back and get the support of the people and I believe that little things like turning off his twitter account, I don’t think he understands how big a deal that is.

    “Yes, twitter is only people’s opinions; yes, it is a lot of people’s vulgar opinions but you started your twitter account. You knew what twitter was like before you got on there. Now that you ain’t feeling good, you should just not go to your twitter account for a few months. Leave it alone, have a think about it for a few days or a week or something but to delete it the night you get home, you’ve got a long way to come back, man.”

    Nice fella
    He describes Groves as “a genuine, nice fella” and feels he got little credit from the boxing press over the last few years and that more should have been made of his second performance against Froch and his European title win over Christopher Rebrasse.
    While he does sympathise with the disappointment Groves is feeling this week, he feels that when the bigger picture is examined, he is doing much better than most.

    “I’d prefer people keep it a bit real too; we’ve just had a young man [super-featherweight David Browne Junior] with two children lose his life in this game in Australia only last night. George Groves is happily married, he has a beautiful home, a few million in the bank and he’s 27 years old and perfectly healthy.

    “I feel gutted for him and I really hope you print it the way I say it please, I feel absolutely gutted for that man, but I don’t feel so bad for him that I think ‘oh my God, poor George’. I’m gutted for him, I’m gutted for me too. I’m part of that team too, it affects me too but keep it real. You’re healthy, you’re 27, you’ve got millions, you’re happily married.”

    While he is preparing the Irish fighter Eamon O’Kane for a fight at Madison Square Garden, he is also coaching young people from very disadvantaged backgrounds at his Swindon gym, who help provide perspective also.

    “I’m just about to walk into my gym; I’ve got kids from broken homes, kids who’ve got nothing and if they’re smiling, you know, keep it real.
    “You have your private life and your boxing life, your boxing life you can be gutted in. What you’ve [Groves] achieved as a boxer, you didn’t achieve as much as you wanted to but it’s not necessarily over unless you say it is. There are lots of fantastic coaches out there; go change things, get things right.
    “Technically, he has everything it takes; physically he has everything it takes, mentally and emotionally now I do believe he needs a coach to deal with some of the mental and emotional issues he’s had for the last two years.”

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      #3
      While I dont think Paddy ever really improved Groves, I dont think he did a bad jb either.

      The flaws he has now have been there for years and years now, through several different trainers, and Groves needs to take some responsibility.

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        #4
        He needs Adam Booth back in his corner, its not the end of the road at all just needs probably 6 months off, get his mind right and LISTEN to the corner instead of going to KO everybody.

        His fitness is a problem too in the late rounds so work on that aspect, hes only 27 so get back with Booth who is the only trainer who can grab his attention, Fitzpatrick isn't a bad a trainer at all, but booth i think can grab his attention better.

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          #5
          He seems a very impulsive dude. He's never been the same since he left Emperor Booth.

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            #6
            No disrespect to Paddy but Groves should never of left Adam Booth. It was Adam's training and gameplan that Groves was executing in the first fight so perfectly until he was robbed and ever since then it's just gone down hill. Adam Booth's ambush style of boxing was perfect for Groves and up until that moment that **** of a ref stopped the first fight, Groves was magic and could of gone on to become the next star from the UK.

            People forget the fact that Groves beat James DeGale who i personally consider in the top 5 most talented active fighters in the world, although it was very close. Can Groves bounce back from this? He can, but he needs to get back with Booth and fighting like he used to.

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              #7
              Groves isn't tough enough to be champion like Froch said. Im sure Groves looks world class on the heavy bag, but in the rings its a different story.

              But having said that, if you get enough chances im sure Groves can do it someday. Some people aren't that fortunate though so moral of the story. Take your chance when you get it and stop touching the canvas.

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                #8
                Originally posted by English Lion View Post
                No disrespect to Paddy but Groves should never of left Adam Booth. It was Adam's training and gameplan that Groves was executing in the first fight so perfectly until he was robbed and ever since then it's just gone down hill. Adam Booth's ambush style of boxing was perfect for Groves and up until that moment that **** of a ref stopped the first fight, Groves was magic and could of gone on to become the next star from the UK.

                People forget the fact that Groves beat James DeGale who i personally consider in the top 5 most talented active fighters in the world, although it was very close. Can Groves bounce back from this? He can, but he needs to get back with Booth and fighting like he used to.
                Was it? Groves took the fight to Froch. That doesn't sound like an Adam Booth gameplan. And he still gassed and got stopped.

                Booth even said after the first fight that Groves wasted too much energy exchanging with Froch, trying to knock him out when he would have advised him to be more patient.

                The second fight was a much more Booth-esque performance and he still got KTFO.

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                  #9
                  Time for Groves to get back with Booth If he can or to seek out a top quality trainer state side, Virgil would be a good man for him, I think he would improve him.

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                    #10
                    I'm not sure Paddy Fitzpatrick is the problem I've always thought he seemed like a decent trainer personally. I thought in the corner he done a good job told him the right things and gave him clear cut, simple instructions & Groves done well when he followed them. Pretty sure he told him he was winning at one point when he clearly wasn't, other than that I've felt he has done all he can with what he has.
                    I'm not saying he has a stamina issue but maybe more a pacing issue, he seems to fade after 5 rounds and the snap is completely gone off of his punches. The guy is often throwing 100 punches a round as a SMW. I think he needs to be more conservative and pick his shots better.

                    Groves looked very vulnerable before they even got together and his power got him across the finish line.

                    I'm not sure I agree with the criticism of the trainer on this one. I don't even think Groves looked particularly bad against Jack, though I thought prior he should of beat Jack I don't think Groves looked bad, I felt both guys looked very good just that Jack was the better man on the night.
                    Last edited by dan_cov; 09-21-2015, 10:46 AM.

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