Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Spoon23]

Spoon -

IV was legal under NSAC rules in any amount, for any reason, at any time, with no permission required. It was not a banned method in Nevada. Floyd could have taken 10000000000ml if he wanted.

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Bennett says they have to be informed.

Proof: Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.

"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."

Since you said, they don't need to ask permission to nsac.

Question: who is lying, you or nsac Bennett?

[original zero]

You can't answer it coz it won't answer your flawed reasoning. Checkmate.

I couldn't answer your question because it made multiple assumptions that were 100% false.

Here's a clearer question.

Let's say 2 athletes want to do IVS for a fight in Vegas. Do these 2 boxers have to ask permission to nsac before taking IVS. Or they don't have to?

Yes or No? If no why?

No they wouldn't have had to ask the NSAC for permission before taking the IVs because IV use was allowed in Nevada, in any amount, for any reason. It wasn't a prohibited method. 100% legal.

This is very simple stuff. Like Rath, you are creating a controversy in your mind that doesn't exist.

IV was 100% legal. Which is why NSAC said Floyd did nothing wrong. Because he didn't.

[Spoon23]

I couldn't answer your question because it made multiple assumptions that were 100% false.




No they wouldn't have had to ask the NSAC for permission before taking the IVs because IV use was allowed in Nevada, in any amount, for any reason. It wasn't a prohibited method. 100% legal.

This is very simple stuff. Like Rath, you are creating a controversy in your mind that doesn't exist.

IV was 100% legal. Which is why NSAC said Floyd did nothing wrong. Because he didn't.

So Original Zero, Bennett is the liar then? Yes? You can't have It both ways brotha' it's either you are lying or he is.



That's correct, USADA is planning on putting a new policy into practice that would completely ban the use of intravenous saline solutions for athletes in competition. Coincidentally, this decision came about shortly after Floyd's su****ious use of a saline water for a meager 2 lb rehydration.



Their main incentive is to prevent athletes from using it to mask PED use.

"I don't know how closely you've followed our investigation into cycling, but you saw it used a lot in cycling. Because, putting a bag of saline over 50 ml, for example is the rule, would potentially mask or alter the blood testing that was done." - Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA


Question: what does Travis Tygart CEO of USADA point in all that he said about intravenous and saline?

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Oh my lord you're all so so pathetic. You're so sad. Spoon seriously, I cannot believe how utterly pathetic you are. Go outside GET A LIFE! You must be so lonely and you must have such a loser life it worries me to even comprehend! Cannot get my head around how you life your life, you got to delete your account to NSP and move on with your life. You have 1 life and you're wasting it on this silly forum. Deep down you know it too, you've got a problem.

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[Spoon23]

Oh my lord you're all so so pathetic. You're so sad. Spoon seriously, I cannot believe how utterly pathetic you are. Go outside GET A LIFE! You must be so lonely and you must have such a loser life it worries me to even comprehend! Cannot get my head around how you life your life, you got to delete your account to NSP and move on with your life. You have 1 life and you're wasting it on this silly forum. Deep down you know it too, you've got a problem.

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In other words! Spoon! Why are you telling the truth! Stop it pls!

[Spoon23]

Oh my lord you're all so so pathetic. You're so sad. Spoon seriously, I cannot believe how utterly pathetic you are. Go outside GET A LIFE! You must be so lonely and you must have such a loser life it worries me to even comprehend! Cannot get my head around how you life your life, you got to delete your account to NSP and move on with your life. You have 1 life and you're wasting it on this silly forum. Deep down you know it too, you've got a problem.

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In other words! Spoon! Why are you telling the truth! Stop it pls!

[original zero]

Spoon -

You continue to say things that aren't true. Bennett didn't say they have to be informed. He said he was disappointed that they weren't informed. That is not the same as saying they have to be informed.

He can label it unacceptable and unprofessional if he wishes. It's called damage control. But nowhere did he say that they have to be informed. So nobody is lying (except you). Bennett issued a strongly worded, but ultimately empty and meaningless statement.

USADA doesn't have the authority to issue an exemption to NSAC policy, but NSAC policy wasn't violated and therefore no exemption was needed in regards to NSAC obligations.

Look, I get it. You're a fan. This can be confusing. It's nuanced legalese and for a non-lawyer or non-professional, it's easy to be manipulated.

But none of that changes that IV was 100% legal in Nevada. No permission needed. And nowhere does Bennett say permission was needed. Bennett has already gone on record that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

[Spoon23]

Spoon -

You continue to say things that aren't true. Bennett didn't say they have to be informed. He said he was disappointed that they weren't informed. That is not the same as saying they have to be informed.

He can label it unacceptable and unprofessional if he wishes. It's called damage control. But nowhere did he say that they have to be informed. So nobody is lying (except you). Bennett issued a strongly worded, but ultimately empty and meaningless statement.

USADA doesn't have the authority to issue an exemption to NSAC policy, but NSAC policy wasn't violated and therefore no exemption was needed in regards to NSAC obligations.

Look, I get it. You're a fan. This can be confusing. It's nuanced legalese and for a non-lawyer or non-professional, it's easy to be manipulated.

But none of that changes that IV was 100% legal in Nevada. No permission needed. And nowhere does Bennett say permission was needed. Bennett has already gone on record that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

Checkmate.

Sorry dude, you can't spin this any other way. Bennett needed to be informed it's protocol. As I said, it's either you are lying or he is.

Yes I am a fan of the sport so should you. I'm in here as a vanguard of truth. I am one of those who are for a better system. A cleaner system. There are so many loop holes in boxing, just as how your try to wiggle your way to an obvious truth. Professionalism as Bennett says is a mark of any true profession. USADA should have informed them, hence a broken system were in cheating can be easily done.

Why do you think they needed to be informed?

I'll answer that. It's because as professionals, Bennett wanted to know why Floyd was dehydrated. Who diagnosed him? Is it to severe that no amount of pedialyte would suffice? That's how professionalism is, so that all is on record.

As to nsac professionalism when they didn't allow Pacquiao with Tarodol shots since they weren't informed on time. See the double standards there.

They let Floyd's case slide even if it was unprofessional of USADA not to tell them, while pac's team was even able to tell them a day itself, it was still not enough to grant then a Tarodol shot.

Professionalism is not only in boxing. It's a standard procedure for professionals. Yes as you said nsac allows, but it is a must they be informed to list down information to the cause of why he Floyd needed IVS. Everything is documented now a days.

Funny thing is this one slipped, and even if USADA failed to inform Nsac, they were not given any sanction for hiding it from them. Floyd get's a surprising TUE from nsac even if USADA hid it from them. RED FLAG

No way around it bud. 1000 ml of IV is not even equal to the potency of a bottle of pedialyte. The only time Floyd can take IVS is if when he can't open his mouth. Which only occurs in severe cases of dehydration. If that was the case, who was the attending physician who administered it?

To this day nada. Zilch..

Sorry bud. I'll believe Nsac Commisioner Bennett over you. Professionalism is important in business especially in a super fight in this magnitude.

There fore, it's you who is lying.

Nsac in a certain extent follows wada guidelines as well. IVS are allowed by nsac with preconditions. It's you who don't get it.

Oh Nsac are totally banning it too as they have done in MMA.

USADA is planning on putting a new policy into practice that would completely ban the use of intravenous saline solutions for athletes in competition. Coincidentally, this decision came about shortly after Floyd's su****ious use of a saline water for a meager 2 lb rehydration.



Their main incentive is to prevent athletes from using it to mask PED use.

"I don't know how closely you've followed our investigation into cycling, but you saw it used a lot in cycling. Because, putting a bag of saline over 50 ml, for example is the rule, would potentially mask or alter the blood testing that was done." - Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA

[Nubia]

Jesus is Spoon still writing out novels about this ****?

How can you invest so much time into such irrelevant matters?

[Spoon23]

Oh, any fl0mo can answer this one.

Why did Floyd over pay USADA? He paid USADA 150k when it should have only been 36k. Why is that?