Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

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Stack like five conspiracy theories involving dozens if not hundreds of people to try to justify Manny's failure...tells other people they're believing stories

Deflection city ..... written by DeadLike Me

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Mayweather requested and was granted a tue by the usada, complying with the international standards of the wada, now someone having su****ion as to the exact circumstances leading to Mayweather needing the tue is acceptable, but all those involved directly seem to be content with what was presented them, and that by YOU is explianed away with the theory that everyone is in Mayweather's pocket(nsac,usada,wada,nasa, ect.), same as your excuse for Pacquiao's loss to Mayweather and that bs is NOT acceptable.

Now as for Pac he spent a long portion of his career avoiding blood testing and i found that su****ious but i didn't invalidate his entire career and as a matter of fact have been a fan for some time, of couse i don't idolize him or think he can do no wrong and i still think it was su****ious.

I will say this, there's exactly as much actual evidence that Pac cheated as there is that Mayweather did, but 5-6 posters on this thread spend all day trying to convince anyone who listens(or maybe just yourselves) that it's an open and shut case and Mayweather's career is tainted, who coincidently are the same 5-6 posters who kept crying about slomo videos, but at the very least you all have something new to cling your hopes to.

Manny was OK with extra testing but was concerned about being drained if too close to the fight due to his experience. Floyd fans found that also su****ious and called that BS. Now for Floyd, it wasn't just a concern. Floyd used it as an excuse even though there was no blood taken from him for about 10 days!!!! So now you are no longer su****ious? Got it!!!

So again, I was right. You were su****ious of Manny and came to your own conclusions. Now that its about Floyd, one thread on this subject is too much for you to handle. Got it!


We are saying USADA screwed up. Hauser said the same. NSAC said the same ...... yet its all a conspiracy. Got it!

NSAC said the mistaken checkbox (for Manny) requires a thorough investigation and requested the state attorney general do so. Floyd didn't properly fill out his form at the places and again, said USADA screwed up. Plus there is more evidence that points to Floyd NOT being severely dehydrated. Yet no investigation? Got it!


Floyd's side is paying USADA big money. There is a conflict of interest here because of that. Don't you think?

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Manny was OK with extra testing but was concerned about being drained if too close to the fight due to his experience. Floyd fans found that also su****ious and called that BS. Now for Floyd, it wasn't just a concern. Floyd used it as an excuse even though there was no blood taken from him for about 10 days!!!! So now you are no longer su****ious? Got it!!!

So again, I was right. You were su****ious of Manny and came to your own conclusions. Now that its about Floyd, one thread on this subject is too much for you to handle. Got it!


We are saying USADA screwed up Hauser said the same. NSAC said the same ...... yet its all a conspiracy. Got it!

NSAC said the mistaken checkbox (for Manny) requires a thorough investigation and requested the state attorney general do so. Floyd didn't properly fill out his form at the places and again, said USADA screwed up. Plus there is more evidence that points to Floyd NOT being severely dehydrated. Yet no investigation? Got it!


Floyd's side is paying USADA big money. There is a conflict of interest here because of that. Don't you think?

Now the story is the USADA screwed up? Got it.

The claim up until now has been that usada conspired to grant Mayweather a fraudulent tue, seems you can't keep your story straight but it's okay we all can clearly see you for what you are.

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Now the story is the USADA screwed up? Got it.

The claim up until now has been that usada conspired to grant Mayweather a fraudulent tue, seems you can't keep your story straight but it's okay we all can clearly see you for what you are.

So you just did what I expected. Deflect. Why didn't you respond to my points?

Lets make it clear for you.

By saying that USADA screwed up means that something needs to be investigated as to how and why they screwed up. Was it intentional to aid Floyd? It may have been if you take just the initial action into account but when they actually took their time to grant that TUE then its more than that.
Need more explanation?

Now go back to that post and respond instead of deflect. The point is that NSAC, USADA and Floyd fans were all OK with Manny being investigated for a mistaken checkbox. Before you go and deflect. I already said that would be OK by me but what about Floyd?

So the answer must be due to them hiding the truth. remember that you used that line for Manny but now do not want that here for Floyd where its clearly worse. See the difference?





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You know that your statement is false.


Floyd was examined by NSAC assigned physician just before Floyd had this so-called emergency medical condition where Floyd was supposedly severely dehydrated to the point where he must have an IV of 750ml of a substance. The NSAC physician didn't come to the conclusion that Floyd/Ellerbe claimed. NSAC also has number based data to coo berate with the NSAC's conclusion of Floyd's physical condition. Everything looked normal.



The commissions have their own rules:
"The Commission need not follow the rules of evidence that a court must follow. All evidence that the Commission determines to be relevant and submitted in accordance with the requirements of this chapter is admissible. If the Commission determines that the evidence is the sort of evidence on which responsible persons are accustomed to rely in the conduct of serious affairs, the Commission may use that evidence alone to support a finding of fact."

Again...as others stated long long ago....bring forth the proof to a commission, a politician, somebody! Because apparently this thread has solved the case...Oh no wait, Hauser, the notorious boxing writer already did...

Imagine news channels stating, Man A was suspected of murder and was later found guilty, however, the public has showed no interest nor the Law, so Man A was set free.

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Again...as others stated long long ago....bring forth the proof to a commission, a politician, somebody! Because apparently this thread has solved the case...Oh no wait, Hauser, the notorious boxing writer already did...

Imagine news channels stating, Man A was suspected of murder and was later found guilty, however, the public has showed no interest nor the Law, so Man A was set free.

No, what you said was that it was explained here that a court system would not find Floyd guilty. If you look back, it was explained to you back then and now that you were wrong ..... AGAIN!!!!

BTW - We also responded to your above post. Need a hint? Check out how long it took to get Lance, Bonds, ..... and that will actually even answer many of your other questions such as bring them to court, a judge and the other dumb posts of yours ....

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No, what you said was that it was explained here that a court system would not find Floyd guilty. If you look back, it was explained to you back then and now that you were wrong ..... AGAIN!!!!

BTW - We also responded to your above post. Need a hint? Check out how long it took to get Lance, Bonds, ..... and that will actually even answer many of your other questions such as bring them to court, a judge and the other dumb posts of yours ....

lol. Again Lance Armstrong... the EPO Blood Doping king, a publicized time when agencies weren't detecting... how many years ago was that? Anti Doping agencies were born today.

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Too much reality, too quickly. Hand out the helmets. They are goons need them. They will instinctively revert to Hauser, his article, Lance, just a matter of thine, beiber, bora bora. Just hand out the helmets.

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Best Regards,
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These guys have no concept about how bizarre they look, instead they try to focus on why is the "Floyd Fan" is still trying to be reasonable. Makes me feel like they'll do whatever they have to, to get a brotha in a tree.

So you continue to say that you are ignorant on the subject yet you still put down others that say that they have more knowledge than you? Nice logic!

I've had no choice but to label you willfully obtuse for some time. What does that mean? It means when I sit at my keyboard the barest wisps of seriousness stay firmly locked within me. I don't take you the least bit seriously on this issue, and I don't think any sane and reasoning "adult" would either.

I know about Lance because I follow cycling and am still now, I very good cyclist myself. Being a cyclist that has done long endurance type rides often, I would think that makes me at least very knowledgeable on the subject. Add that I have many years experience in that sport and other sports adds to what I have stated. In one days workout, I can lose a lot of weight even though I am constantly trying to keep my body hydrated and fueled. So I have experience and can see BS a mile away!

Here's a list of things I follow or have a fair knowledge about (been doing or reading about this stuff for years) but I'm still not an "expert" that can speak authoritatively like a shallow b1tch over the internet. No, I'm afraid I reserve that very capable power to yourself and your dead end compatriots.

Things I know something about but refuse to talk **** about:

1.) Entomology (worked with honeybees for years in hives and in the wild)
2.) Literature/writing/Art
3.) Zoology/Geography and natural sciences
4.) Human behavior, as it relates to social work, access to community services
5.) Philosophy

All stuff I'm really fluent in, but I belong to no sites that deal with these kinds of topics, and I especially wouldn't join one of them to gutlessness/anonymously level charges at luminaries in their respective fields. And then expect others to come to the exact same conclusions, and when they refuse they're labeled "fanboys" or whatever it is you BRs call fans that try to be objective.

Again, you must be a very casual cycling fan because true cycling fans knew that Lance was not beloved by everyone and he had his share of hate and was called a PEDs cheat for a very long time. You are just sensitive because you are a Floyd fan. Lance was accused for many years yet you can't handle a few months of this ....... and keep on saying "there is no scandal" even though this hit the news everywhere. It took a will and years to bring down Lance.

I am a casual fan, and as such I'm trying to explain to you how Lance Armstrong was perceived outside of the die hard fan culture of the sport. He was a sports icon to Americans in general dude, and Mayweather has never had that squeaky clean sheen, that's all I'm saying. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that or that white athletes get a pass much more than others. Lance's problems were too big to merely sweep under the carpet which I'm sure a lot of people would be fine doing.

There is no bringing down Floyd I'm afraid, it's tough for people on this site to get this. In the minds of many he already is down and has been for a lot of years. Go back to the threads before this issue was brought up, you see a lot of love in those pages, and pages of total horse****?

My point is that the same Floyd fans said Manny must be on PEDs with no evidence are now scratching there heads and acting all dumb with actual evidence. The same Floyd fans are even trying to distort facts and timelines. The same Floyd fans who just a few months ago wanted Manny to prove that he was in fact injured and wanted to see an MRI and a video of the surgery are not talking the same way with Floyd now. So Manny was guilty until Manny proved otherwise while same Floyd fans now want it the other way around for Floyd. Even though, the evidence is there for them to see .......

Do you think you're a dip-**** judge and jury or something? Are charges based on the strength of the case or how some of Floyd's Fans" reacted to Manny's pumpkin sized head? I would like to think that fans of the sport would be a little more mature than that? I'm in no one's camp per se, and I'll be goddamned if I'll sit idlly by and read crap post after crap post from chaps that are not very smart, seriously, and I'm not supposed to point that out? I'm supposed act like some sort of life skills coach and let grown men bumble about as if they not a care in the world?

[U][B]So again, sorry but its Floyd fans that are acting like 2 year olds who know nothing and pretend that they do.


Conflict of interest?
You just need to analyze the evidence yourself. Its very sound. While on this subject, would you say that there is a conflict of interest since Floyd's side pays USADA so much money? Get ready for a Floyd fan deflecting in 3, 2, 1 ..... GO!

I have read the "evidence," about this world wide doping "scandal" and I don't come to the same conclusions you do. Again and lastly, there was too much animus built up for Floyd before this and it's not so thinly veiled now.

Carry on....

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So you just did what I expected. Deflect. Why didn't you respond to my points?

Lets make it clear for you.

By saying that USADA screwed up means that something needs to be investigated as to how and why they screwed up. Was it intentional to aid Floyd? It may have been if you take just the initial action into account but when they actually took their time to grant that TUE then its more than that.
Need more explanation?

Now go back to that post and respond instead of deflect. The point is that NSAC, USADA and Floyd fans were all OK with Manny being investigated for a mistaken checkbox. Before you go and deflect. I already said that would be OK by me but what about Floyd?

So the answer must be due to them hiding the truth. remember that you used that line for Manny but now do not want that here for Floyd where its clearly worse. See the difference?





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Again, this a new stance, that usada screwed up. Why would i continue an argument that changes at your convenience? And as I've already stated it's pointless to argue with conspiracy theorist. If you have your undeniable truth then put it forth and Mayweather will be brought to justice, i just wouldn't hold my breath.

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lol. Again Lance Armstrong... the EPO Blood Doping king, a publicized time when agencies weren't detecting... how many years ago was that? Anti Doping agencies were born today.

Oh, more deflection I see.

Please show me the stats that prove your theory? Please show me the "significantly" higher percentage of athletes caught today compared to then? ................ GO!!!