Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[The Big Dunn]

The Mayweather's accusations garnered media attention and stained Pacquiao's name, just like Hauser is doing with Mayweather/USADA now. Paulie is a nobody with an opinion. How is it comparable?

Hectari said sueing someone is the only way to prove you are not guilty. Paulie's comments have not gotten as much attention, but Hectari didn't say "attention level" mattered.

[North Star]

Floyd tested negative before he took the IV. Manny never tested at all back then. You wanted a positive test then before you could determine cheating, stay true to that standard.

The issue isn't about 6 years ago so I will stop mention it now.

Sorry daggum, but you continually typing he cheated is just your opinion. you have no proof. for years you needed proof. don't change now because its floyd.

Hauser gave more details about the before and after testing that USADA claimed took place. In this article, he indicates that the DCO showed up and Floyd couldn't give a sample. He got the IV and then gave a sample. So "before" could be any test before the date the IV was taken. The test immediately after is negative, which is a surprise to none regarding the circumstance.

[Lester Tutor]

Uh no. Armstrong got busted because an LA federal prosecutor opened a fraud inquiry on the grounds that Armstrong had defrauded the to the postal service. Once Armstrong's buddies got put under oath they all confessed. Do you trust TMT?

You don't even know what you are complaining about, son. Armstrong had confessed about blood doping, and in those early days they were not checking for EPOs like they do today. Hence, May-Pac; EPO, HGH, CIR. How much more bonafide anti doping tests do you need, especially from 2015 WADA accredited protocols?

Every ****** excuse as usual. "If its not that it's gotta be this," etc.

Give it a rest. The Gold medal goes to anyone that can prove masking EPO, CIR, and HGH from May 1st to May 2nd. That means a time frame of day when the blood is most CONCENTRATED from any theorized illegal substance would be easily detected. Again, you guys just being suckered into generalized out of context time framing.

How much empiricial proof has Hauser, in one paragraph, at least given a theory of how Mayweather or Pac or ay boxer do it within a day? You can't!

Get some rest yall.

[DeadLikeMe]

Uh no. Armstrong got busted because an LA federal prosecutor opened a fraud inquiry on the grounds that Armstrong had defrauded the to the postal service. Once Armstrong's buddies got put under oath they all confessed. Do you trust TMT?

So you're saying Armstrong's samples in his comeback never tested positive? He didn't come back for USPS. He also failed four drug tests in 1999.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Floyd needs to rematch Pac as there is too much controversy. THe reality is Floyd wouldn't have beat Pac if it were not for the IV fluids.

Using IV fluids isn't natural because if it was I in my lifetime would have used them. So FLoyd is cheating whatever way you look at it. Floyd got his training wrong this time if he was dehydrated. How many boxers have lost because they were dehydrated.?
So lets say Pac beat FLoyd, but Floyd can use the excuse he was dehydrated.

oh lord...........

[The Big Dunn]

Hauser gave more details about the before and after testing that USADA claimed took place. In this article, he indicates that the DCO showed up and Floyd couldn't give a sample. He got the IV and then gave a sample. So "before" could be any test before the date the IV was taken. The test immediately after is negative, which is a surprise to none regarding the circumstance.

The after test is only relevant in that it matches all the other negative tests. So it comes down to if you are a daggumite and decides this means he was cheating all along.

Obviously with Floyd anything is possible. Obviously with Hauser everything is taken with a grain of salt.

[soul_survivor]

I actually spent some time reading all that lol As I have the entire back and forth between Hauser and USADA and going further back to older articles Hauser has written about and cover ups in boxing.

Hauser makes good points and backs them up with multiple references and in thsi case, images of actual forms. USADA has not even once responded in a mature, and articulate fashion. They haven't even defended the allegations aimed at them.

Now, for all those who are hardcore Mayweather fans, do not take this personally, this isn't just about one boxer, it's about the entire sport and all sports. In terms of what I have personally read and seen and heard, no single nation on earth has had as many top athletes cheat via pharmaceuticals as the US. From baseball to NFL to cycling to athletics to boxing. The punishments have often been harsh but far too often, the biggest names and biggest money makers have walked away from their respective sports as millionaires, only for prosecution to occur long after retirement.

There needs to be a formal investigation into this matter and it needs to happen sooner, rather than later. And it needs to involve more than just USADA and Mayweather, it needs to involve NSAC and numerous coaches up and down the US.

[North Star]

The after test is only relevant in that it matches all the other negative tests. So it comes down to if you are a daggumite and decides this means he was cheating all along.

Obviously with Floyd anything is possible. Obviously with Hauser everything is taken with a grain of salt.

It is also interesting to note that a paramedic was called to administer the IV. Hauser claims no records were found indicating a paramedic was sent and on site. That should be easy to defend by Floyd's team IMO. I'm sure EMT units have some type of recording of dates, names, and vehicles that were sent to the scene.

[The Big Dunn]

It is also interesting to note that a paramedic was called to administer the IV. Hauser claims no records were found indicating a paramedic was sent and on site. That should be easy to defend by Floyd's team IMO. I'm sure EMT units have some type of recording of dates, names, and vehicles that were sent to the scene.

But they do not need to defend it and that's the part a lot of you do not get. I doubt Floyd called 911 and asked for a paramedic. I'm sure he acquired one the way other wealthy people do.

Hauser asks a ton of good questions, but he isn't entitlted to an answer and not responding to them is in no way admittance of guilt.

the article also says ”The use of IVs in this manner is prohibited without a TUE.”

[soul_survivor]

It is also interesting to note that a paramedic was called to administer the IV. Hauser claims no records were found indicating a paramedic was sent and on site. That should be easy to defend by Floyd's team IMO. I'm sure EMT units have some type of recording of dates, names, and vehicles that were sent to the scene.

They most definitely do.

But the article makes even more damning points than that tbh.