Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[GTTofAK]

I already addressed the dehydration claim in my first post

You dind't address it. You said that they check all fighters for signs of dehydration but you have never heard of a fight being called for it. However, plenty of fights have been called because of high blood pressure which is a sign of dehydration, blood becomes more viscus yada yada yada.

[GTTofAK]

Also Hauser is demanding specific information about Mayweather's Protected Health Information which cannot be shared without his consent under the law of the United States as well as protected by the very same Wada regulations, which is why they couldn't go into detail about his "medical condition"

Having been a tested athletes at the NCAA level, athletes normally have to sign a HIPPA waiver when they are tested. That Floyd does not and has all records kept confidential per the contract is the anomaly. That is not how drug testing is normally handled.

[boxinghead530]

No worries.
I just got tired of some fans saying PAC won, one armed, and cloyed couldn't beat him in slow motion.

Take it easy.

It's all good friend. The only ones that think he won are his clueless ******ed fanboys who think he even won against Marquez when he got knocked out.

I just call it like I see it. When I see posters say sh it that doesn't make sense or they come off as tools but act like they are some veteran boxing followers, I'll call them out.

For me you were claiming to be this veteran boxing follower who never hugs onto a fighter. But then you would say stuff the average fanboy would say protecting their fighter. So I called you out on it. Maybe you are some old guy. I don't know, but you were just acting like the average Floyd fanboy which made you look bad if you really are some old guy.

[GTTofAK]

Usada as well as the wada have his test results and it was the wada that granted the tue, having assessed his records put forth for the request. People want more information than they need. Wada is the only one who can grant a tue and having looked at the protected health information approved the request, end of story.

No no no, god you are dumb. WADA does not know what "his" test results are. Samples are sent to WADA accredited labs anonymously. Only usada knows who sample number 12345 belongs to. For all the WADA lab knows the sample is from a high school football player.

And no you dumbass WADA does not and did not grant the TUE. WADA sets up the rules for granting a TUE but the testing and compliance agency, USADA in this case, grants the TUE. Here it is clear the USADA plainly violated the WADA rules on when a TUE can be granted for IV rehydration. WADA rules do not allow TUE's to be granted for the us of IV rehydration for mild to moderate dehydration. Its not even up for debate it is explicitly forbidden.

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body o scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
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USADA broke WADA rules when it issued the TUE.

[Lester Tutor]

Having been a tested athletes at the NCAA level, athletes normally have to sign a HIPPA waiver when they are tested. That Floyd does not and has all records kept confidential per the contract is the anomaly. That is not how drug testing is normally handled.

You have excuses for irrelevant issues. I like that! Top Rank style. "That is not how drug testing is normally handled?" So what protocol are you even referring to? If some random bloke requested medical records from someone they are just given? Or if not given or granted, conspiracy theory is amplified? That's what kids do when they don't get their way...seriously, that type of behavior.

[Zaroku]

It's all good friend. The only ones that think he won are his clueless ******ed fanboys who think he even won against Marquez when he got knocked out.

I just call it like I see it. When I see posters say sh it that doesn't make sense or they come off as tools but act like they are some veteran boxing followers, I'll call them out.

For me you were claiming to be this veteran boxing follower who never hugs onto a fighter. But then you would say stuff the average fanboy would say protecting their fighter. So I called you out on it. Maybe you are some guy. I don't know, but you were just acting like the average Floyd fanboy which made you look bad if you really are some old guy.

Thanks. I was getting a bit carried away, maybe, but it was funny.
Floyd definitely lost to Castillo in their first fight. I don't get it that guys say his rematch win, proves he won both.

Salvador Sanchez was my favorite.

Take it easy.

[GTTofAK]

You have excuses for irrelevant issues. I like that! Top Rank style. "That is not how drug testing is normally handled?" So what protocol are you even referring to? If some random bloke requested medical records from someone they are just given? Or if not given or granted, conspiracy theory is amplified? That's what kids do when they don't get their way...seriously, that type of behavior.

How do you find out which drugs athletes tested positive for? How do you know Manny Ramirez tested positive for HCG?

Simple you dumb **** they signed a HIPPA waiver. The media cant get all their medical records but they sure as hell can get their drug test results because confidentiality has been waived.

Why do you think Hauser has Froid's NSAC drug tests results? Because the NSAC requires the same damn HIPPA waiver. That is how drug testing is normally handled. Froid's confidential agreement with USADA is the anomaly.

[Lester Tutor]

No no no, god you are dumb. WADA does not know what "his" test results are. Samples are sent to WADA accredited labs anonymously. Only usada knows who sample number 12345 belongs to. For all the WADA lab knows the sample is from a high school football player.

And no you dumbass WADA does not and did not grant the TUE. WADA sets up the rules for granting a TUE but the testing and compliance agency, USADA in this case, grants the TUE. Here it is clear the USADA plainly violated the WADA rules on when a TUE can be granted for IV rehydration. WADA rules do not allow TUE's to be granted for the us of IV rehydration for mild to moderate dehydration. Its not even up for debate it is explicitly forbidden.



USADA broke WADA rules when it issued the TUE.

Lol. This bloke calling others dumb and trying to rephrase what was being said weeks ago regarding the difference between "the code" and anti doping agencies. Im happy to have refreshed that knowledge for you weeks ago.

However, young lad, even the WADA code also educates prohibited list scenarios and or methods, which ironically, they still promote the TUE standard or reason for use, aside from the facf that both contracts from fighters were in agreement when signed..thats includes Koncz reading too (lol). Maybe years down the line you'll understand out of context journalism.

When or whenever a rule applies an "IF" or exemption you might think they are educating a guideline from their own rules.

Hence, "if." Read that loud and clear.

[GTTofAK]

Lol. This bloke calling others dumb and trying to rephrase what was being said weeks ago regarding the difference between "the code" and anti doping agencies. Im happy to have refreshed that knowledge for you weeks ago.

However, young lad, even the WADA code also educates prohibited list scenarios and or methods, which ironically, they still promote the TUE standard or reason for use, aside from the facf that both contracts from fighters were in agreement when signed..thats includes Koncz reading too (lol). Maybe years down the line you'll understand out of context journalism.

When or whenever a rule applies an "IF" or exemption you might think they are educating a guideline from their own rules.

Hence, "if." Read that loud and clear.

You would mind rephrasing that in ****ing english?

As best I can get you are saying that since the TUE was issued then all is well.

The problem is the WADA code does not allow a TUE to be issued for anything less than severe dehydration for which they reference as study that uses 7% loss of body mass as the standard for severe dehydration.

Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68 Otherwise, as the American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, "IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes."

So there is our objective number 7%. Was Froid down 7% of his bodymass?

[Lester Tutor]

How do you find out which drugs athletes tested positive for? How do you know Manny Ramirez tested positive for HCG?

Simple you dumb **** they signed a HIPPA waiver. The media cant get all their medical records but they sure as hell can get their drug test results because confidentiality has been waived.

Why do you think Hauser has Froid's NSAC drug tests results? Because the NSAC requires the same damn HIPPA waiver. That is how drug testing is normally handled. Froid's confidential agreement with USADA is the anomaly.

Right kid, I see, so it should be titled, "When boxers use USADA, and writing critics can't get results." Floyd fights in the state of Nevada you nunce. You can't just mix up "NSAC" without referring to a particular protocol. Generalizing is easy huh?