Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Bravado]

This is what was stated before. Perhaps the reality is that there is a confusion between exhaustion and dehydration. One can be exhausted, but doesn't mean one is dehydrated. The fact is any one of us can drink copious amounts of water in a day and we can all attest that our urine will be clear. The average person doesn't piss clear.

The point is Floyd is a madonna about exercise. That is clear, and nobody can deny that. He's what Richard Simmons strives to be. Point is, if Floyd has an opinion about his own healthy and knows it, to which we can all agree about urine color, then the pro athlete has every right to do as he pleases, especially when it's the biggest fight of his career. The De La Hoya bout actually was.

Furthermore, none of us train like Floyd, and doing that for a span throughout his entire life growing up in a boxing family the guy is literally what you call a TRUE ''bonafide'' boxer. That's just a fact, whether people want to admit it or not.

Regarding exhaustion. People seem to think that by drinking water solves a dehydrated scene, and to what measure. It's ridiculous to compare a general person's CONDITION to that of Floyd. It's just ridiculous. I have first hand experience, and I'm sure many of you have as well, how great IV feels 30 min after it's done. Drinking water simply CANNOT do that.

Medical practice states that drinking water OF COURSE will solve a dehydrated person, HOWEVER, there are no circumstances provided in relation to boxing's weigh in protocols, nor can you find the varibles of a sport in relation to dehydration. It's just all generalized. This is why Hauser and all his followers just contextualize out of text or real comprehension. Wh is meant is that medical literature on dehydration, or at least the general stuff you find online, has nothing to do with blood testing protocols and urine samples or preparation for a major event. Preparing for a boxing match is not a 100 meter dash... and preparing for a 100 meter dash is not the same as person going to work...or not the same just sitting around...

Easy breezy.

Marvelous comment

[Zaroku]

It does indeed stand to reason. As I read through some of these responses, what's clear to me is that if some people wish to remain "unconvinced" about potential motivations for leveling charges like these they ultimately will regardless. It seems really petty and small to try to run in after the fact and declare a guy dirty because you don't like the result of the fight, or if one were trying to distract away from nutty behavior of Pac himself.

If it weren't the same cast of characters here on this site desperately trying to either bash Mayweather in some manner or bash those that appreciate boxing, not necessarily Floyd I might listen. But it's the same people that come to this site day after day, it isn't close friends and confidants that are trying to expose Mayweather. Marquez nearly kills Pac in the ring and it's roids, Mayweather makes the guy look like a rank amateur and SURPRISE, it's roids again.

I especially love the back and forth about ppm and how unheard of it is for fighters to use IVs, all to try to label Floyd, what their hero has been accused of for years. Dunno, it doesn't seem like their cries of cheating are resonating with anyone with a brain and that can add 1 + 1 = 2, Pac got out boxed fluidly and easily. Floyd didn't have to do anything Herculean to make the guy look ordinary.



Again, not feeling pain here. I'm not the one that needs a thread stickied to entertain my delusions as if they were real. Floyd won, please by all means feel free to get over it at any point? Not one scintilla of information in this thread, was acted on, or is going to be acted on by anyone responsible and with the power or influence to affect Floyd's life or anyone he knows. In other words, it's a nice little spot for Pac "fans" to come argue pathetically that Mayweather didn't really beat Pac because he was on roids.

Doesn't even pass the giggle test. Oh BTW, I'm 10 years older than Mayweather so he's not a childhood hero, perhaps Manny is to you but I can tell you're either a high school drop-out or were home schooled very, very, very poorly.



One thing I will say about you, you are very "original," no need to try to ineptly play off of what I already wrote and thought of all by myself. The thing about me "bashing" Manny is, I don't even need to try, both he and his not very bright fan base manage to do that by opening their mouths.....



You're right, I didn't grasp what you wrote because it was so poorly written and arranged. English is kinda tricky huh?

I agree, but I think the man God from the Philippines let himself down, and his country. Not a lot of positive things going on there. He did his best, and came up shorter than I thought he would. Naturally I bet my heart= money, I don't have sympathy and went with Floyd. He delivered easily. I was laughing all the way to the bank. I wish I would have bet more.

The IV thing for me is iffy, I don't like it, but don't care much. Kinda like asking for your salad dressing on the side and then getting your salad with dressing. Whatever!

Ployd really shocked me by making it too easy. I was mad at myself for not betting more. My bad.

[imperial1]

The guy is a cheat plain and simple. His stamina could be attributed to his ped's ..Its common for guys in their late 30 perform.like they are in their 20's. Yeah right !

If Floyd's work ethic was so good than why the tue's and the iv, s he nedes it for hydration my ass a guy who is in shape year rd needed that much hydration did for 4 lbs lmao

[Slip Stream]

I agree, but I think the man God from the Philippines let himself down, and his country. Not a lot of positive things going on there. He did his best, and came up shorter than I thought he would. Naturally I bet my heart= money, I don't have sympathy and went with Floyd. He delivered easily. I was laughing all the way to the bank. I wish I would have bet more.

I won a nice chunk of change that night too, but where I felt bad was the house full of people I watched it with considered themselves knowledgeable about the sport. They were slapping each other high fives before the fight but by the end sat silently. They seriously believed that Pacquiao had a snowball's chance in Hades of winning a decision against the greatest defensive fighter of all-time perhaps?

The IV thing for me is iffy, I don't like it, but don't care much. Kinda like asking for your salad dressing on the side and then getting your salad with dressing. Whatever!

The IV thing only bothers me to the degree that it's something to take note of, but not to froth at the mouth and damn a guy conveniently for after he trounces their idol.

Ployd really shocked me by making it too easy. I was mad at myself for not betting more. My bad.

I should've bet more too, but all that would have meant was that there would have been more wasted tears for Pacquiao.

[Jc8804]

Im not a fan of either guy.

1 guy pointed the finger and was took to court and settled when his med records were gonna be unsealed.

1 guy wanted drug testing by a company he personally hired

1 guy was caught doing illegal ivs masking peds.

Ironically it was vs the guy he pointed a finger on.

Floyd has been exposed as a cheat, not a crusader for cleaning a sport. That was all a sham.

#exposed
#themedicationteam

[radioraheem]

Im not a fan of either guy.

1 guy pointed the finger and was took to court and settled when his med records were gonna be unsealed.

1 guy wanted drug testing by a company he personally hired

1 guy was caught doing illegal ivs masking peds.

Ironically it was vs the guy he pointed a finger on.

Floyd has been exposed as a cheat, not a crusader for cleaning a sport. That was all a sham.

#exposed
#themedicationteam

You're not a fan by either guy, yet you attack solely one guy.

Also, the IV was not illegal. It was legal under NSAC rules, and legal under WADA via Retroactive TUE. The gossip reason for the settlement was also debunked by USADA.

USADA produced a total of 2,695 pages of documents in response to the subpoena from Mr. Pacquiao’s legal counsel between July 6 and August 21, 2012. Those documents were provided to Mr. Pacquiao’s legal counsel as well as representatives for Mr. Mayweather.

[DeadLikeMe]

Im not a fan of either guy.

1 guy pointed the finger and was took to court and settled when his med records were gonna be unsealed.

1 guy wanted drug testing by a company he personally hired

1 guy was caught doing illegal ivs masking peds.

Ironically it was vs the guy he pointed a finger on.

Floyd has been exposed as a cheat, not a crusader for cleaning a sport. That was all a sham.

#exposed
#themedicationteam

You had a Pacquiao avatar for years and were probably crying the loudest of anyone in the weeks after Manny failed in the biggest fight of his life.

[radioraheem]

The guy is a cheat plain and simple. His stamina could be attributed to his ped's ..Its common for guys in their late 30 perform.like they are in their 20's. Yeah right !

If Floyd's work ethic was so good than why the tue's and the iv, s he nedes it for hydration my ass a guy who is in shape year rd needed that much hydration did for 4 lbs lmao

So stamina is the sign of PED usage? Does that make Pacquiao guilty of PED usage too? He rarely shows signs of fatigue in the ring, so I guess he's cheating too according to your logic.

[Zaroku]

I won a nice chunk of change that night too, but where I felt bad was the house full of people I watched it with considered themselves knowledgeable about the sport. They were slapping each other high fives before the fight but by the end sat silently. They seriously believed that Pacquiao had a snowball's chance in Hades of winning a decision against the greatest defensive fighter of all-time perhaps?



The IV thing only bothers me to the degree that it's something to take note of, but not to froth at the mouth and damn a guy conveniently for after he trounces their idol.


I should've bet more too, but all that would have meant was that there would have been more wasted tears for Pacquiao.

I agree.

Luckily for me, I saw the fight with my 3 older uncles, who kept saying things like " masterful, see how he slipped this or that punch, slid on the ropes, spun PAC, pot shot him, out thought and out fought him. "


They are in their mid 70's and are walking encyclopedias of boxing.
Two of the fought in the ring.

They wanted PAC to win, because they hate trash talk.
But they agreed, Floyd is amazing.

[radioraheem]

You had a Pacquiao avatar for years and were probably crying the loudest of anyone in the weeks after Manny failed in the biggest fight of his life.

These guys are jokers!