Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[radioraheem]

He got one from his doctor (backdated) They all OKd the same sham.

A backdated prescription is not a TUE from a anti-doping testing agency.

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why the hell do you kids keep waving at each other?

such a lame emoticon

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Again, asking questions is not speculating. Sorry.

Pacquiao got permission from USADA, but didn't tell NSAC on time, and didn't tell NSAC about the injury til the last minute. Then he filled out the form incorrectly (didn't indicate an injury). While Mayweather didn't need to ask permission from NSAC for his case. You are comparing apples with oranges hopelessly.

lol You did the USADA response on us. Nice try.

Why was Manny not allowed? Manny had a doctor that could have told NSAC that the injury was legit. Right? Was that not good enough?

For Floyd, with no doctors to fact check the story, they allowed the IV to go into Floyd to dilute his system. Starting to see where I'm going with this?


By the way, was all this information reported in Floyd's pre-fight questionnaire? To have an IV, Floyd and his fans have lead us to believe that it was indeed a serious condition. Right? How about Floyd's IV/injection? Did they report that?

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A backdated prescription is not a TUE from a anti-doping testing agency.

Both were done after the fact. After the race/fight.

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why the hell do you kids keep waving at each other?

such a lame emoticon

Because(one reason) you need to click "more" link to get to other ones .... too lazy to do that sometimes. So its either or or

[radioraheem]

Both were done after the fact. After the race/fight.

A Retroactive TUE is legal and comes from USADA.

[radioraheem]

lol You did the USADA response on us. Nice try.

Why was Manny not allowed? Manny had a doctor that could have told NSAC that the injury was legit. Right? Was that not good enough?

For Floyd, with no doctors to fact check the story, they allowed the IV to go into Floyd to dilute his system. Starting to see where I'm going with this?

By the way, was all this information reported in Floyd's pre-fight questionnaire? To have an IV, Floyd and his fans have lead us to believe that it was indeed a serious condition. Right? How about Floyd's IV/injection? Did they report that?

NSAC didn't allow it because Team Pacquiao didn't play according to their protocol. Also, Team Pacquiao didn't fill out their form correctly. Who's fault is that? Team Pacquiao also faces a slew of lawsuits over the shoulder injury.

Meanwhile, with Mayweather there was a Paramedic on site, along with USADA on site. And he also received a Retroactive TUE. On Floyd's NSAC form, unlike Pacquiao, he clearly indicated he had a prior injury as well. And he's supposed to be the guy who can't read and write.

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NSAC didn't allow it because Team Pacquiao didn't play according to their protocol. Also, Team Pacquiao didn't fill out their form correctly. Who's fault is that? Team Pacquiao also faces a slew of lawsuits over the shoulder injury.

Meanwhile, with Mayweather there was a Paramedic on site, along with USADA on site. And he also received a Retroactive TUE. On Floyd's NSAC form, unlike Pacquiao, he clearly indicated he had a prior injury as well. And he's supposed to be the guy who can't read and write.

So Floyd said that he was dehydrated seriously enough to require an IV on his form? That they had prescribed to inject an IV? Lets see all that.


A paramedic? Manny had doctors and prior visits and USADA OKd in advance yet a paramedic that was at Floyd's house was the gold standard? Sorry but you are not talking to a delusional Floyd fan here. GO sell that stuff to them, please.


Lance Armstrong had to hide the masking agents that he injected into his body. Floyd got to do it all out in the open and the people who got paid by Floyd's people OKd it without any doctors. Oh, how professional.




I guess the mistake Lance Armstrong really made was not getting a retroactive TUE because USADA listed Lance's method as illegal.



In outlining the allegations against Armstrong, USADA said it based its punishment on the following:


The anti-doping rule violations for which Mr. Armstrong is being sanctioned are:

(1) Use and/or attempted use of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(2) Possession of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions and related equipment (such as needles, blood bags, storage containers and other transfusion equipment and blood parameters measuring devices), testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(3) Trafficking of EPO, testosterone and corticosteroids.

(4) Administration and/or attempted administration to others of EPO, testosterone and cortisone.

(5) Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up and other complicity involving one or more anti-doping rule violations and/or attempted anti-doping rule violations.

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Again, asking questions is not speculating. Sorry.

No. You were not just asking questions. You speculated that Manny was not injured even though they had evidence pointing otherwise. Actually the word speculating is a "soft" word to use. You felt quite sure that Manny was not injured.

Go back and check your posts.

[radioraheem]

So Floyd said that he was dehydrated seriously enough to require an IV on his form? That they had prescribed to inject an IV? Lets see all that.

A paramedic? Manny had doctors and prior visits and USADA OKd in advance yet a paramedic that was at Floyd's house was the gold standard? Sorry but you are not talking to a delusional Floyd fan here. GO sell that stuff to them, please.

Lance Armstrong had to hide the masking agents that he injected into his body. Floyd got to do it all out in the open and the people who got paid by Floyd's people OKd it without any doctors. Oh, how professional.

I guess the mistake Lance Armstrong really made was not getting a retroactive TUE because USADA listed Lance's method as illegal.

In outlining the allegations against Armstrong, USADA said it based its punishment on the following:

The anti-doping rule violations for which Mr. Armstrong is being sanctioned are:

(1) Use and/or attempted use of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(2) Possession of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions and related equipment (such as needles, blood bags, storage containers and other transfusion equipment and blood parameters measuring devices), testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(3) Trafficking of EPO, testosterone and corticosteroids.

(4) Administration and/or attempted administration to others of EPO, testosterone and cortisone.

(5) Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up and other complicity involving one or more anti-doping rule violations and/or attempted anti-doping rule violations.

You are comparing apples with oranges again which is hopeless.

Pacquiao couldn't use the medication because of NSAC. Mayweather didn't need NSAC's permission for his case, and needed USADA's permission rather. They had opposite situations.

Unlike Armstrong, Mayweather was granted a Retroactive TUE. So you are correct, Armstrong should have gotten permission directly from USADA. But he did not.