Comments Thread For: Hatton Defends Mayweather: "He Has Fought Everyone"

[therealpugilist]

Diego was never like a Cotto or Hoya Mosley or Pac..In Skill or name recognition..I always knew that May would fight Canelo was a good win,yet what did Alvarez show before that??A close win(which I scored a draw)against Trout..I told everyone on here Floyd would fight Alvarez the fight made sense for Floyd,esp after seeing the Trout fight..

I'm not into taking detracting,May beat who he beat..He's also had a wonderful career..I've followed it from start to finish..So I see spots where he could have took it up a notch and he choose not to,is the point I'm trying to make..Cotto was a big one..Him also not moving to WW when it was really hot and choosing Jr WW instead was another one..The Pac thing is what it is..He had a few moments that would have pushed him in the top 10 or 5 for me,that he did not seize..Who cares tho,imo he's a top 15 kinda guy so I know he'll live..

[B]the only guys that mattered to me that he didn't fight were Kostya Tszyu at 140 and Casamayor and Freitas at 130....those guys and their promoters were not jumping thru hoops to make those fights happened...he called them out time and time again[/B]getting to see him fight stevie Johnston at 135 would have been nice but I could never see lil but bad winning

[Rome-By-Ko]

[B]the only guys that mattered to me that he didn't fight were Kostya Tszyu at 140 and Casamayor and Freitas at 130....those guys and their promoters were not jumping thru hoops to make those fights happened...he called them out time and time again[/B]getting to see him fight stevie Johnston at 135 would have been nice but I could never see lil but bad winning

So it did not bother you that when the Cotto fight was primed and ready to go May retired??That **** bother the hell out of me bro..I was not even going to get into May not fighting Casa cause I just looked at him as better..The real challenge was Mosley at 147lb right after the Hoya win..Even if he would have shown interest in fighting a Hoya at that point(who would have been an even bigger issue at that time),don't forget there were guy's like Forest and Winky that he never bothered with either..Not to say he ducked those fighters,but they were around he never gave um a shot..

Tszyu would have been nice,but Mosley at 147lb in his prime would have been better..Same goes for Cotto and Hoya..

[Divine Hammer]

no he hasn't.

- didn't fight a prime manny
- didn't fight a prime cotto
- didn't fight a prime mosley
- didn't fight margarito
- didn't fight paul williams
- didn't fight martinez or GGG at 154
- didn't fight khan

etc. etc.

floyd fought way past prime versions of his competition or avoided them completely.

[therealpugilist]

So it did not bother you that when the Cotto fight was primed and ready to go May retired??That **** bother the hell out of me bro..I was not even going to get into May not fighting Casa cause I just looked at him as better..The real challenge was Mosley at 147lb right after the Hoya win..Even if he would have shown interest in fighting a Hoya at that point(who would have been an even bigger issue at that time),don't forget there were guy's like Forest and Winky that he never bothered with either..Not to say he ducked those fighters,but they were around he never gave um a shot..

Tszyu would have been nice,but Mosley at 147lb in his prime would have been better..Same goes for Cotto and Hoya..

personally I never thought Cotto stood a chance especially back then when Floyd was faster, threw combos, was still defensively great, and actually knocked people out

If that fight happened he would have ruined Cotto's career and trajectory to the top level


I always told people on ESB Cotto with his ear muffs would be a sucker for floyds best punches.....uppercuts and right hands whether looping around or in between


Cotto is an overachiever in my book.


Winky Wright was a career 154...Floyd had like 4 fights over 140 period I didn't see that happening

Mayweather wasn't the shot caller he is today in 2000-2007....He called out Mosley and ODLH since the late 90s and anyone who followed boxing then knows that

[mannyman]

48tards are too blind with hate to understand that Floyd has wiped out all the real competition and there's nobody left.

'48tards'

[Gary Coleman]

Floyd Mayweather Jr is undefeated, P4P #1, with no real threat from 140-154...at 38 years of age!

Let that marinate.

[danktrees]

no he hasn't.

- didn't fight a prime manny
- didn't fight a prime cotto
- didn't fight a prime mosley
- didn't fight margarito
- didn't fight paul williams
- didn't fight martinez or GGG at 154
- didn't fight khan

etc. etc.

floyd fought way past prime versions of his competition or avoided them completely.

manny - that is accurate but to put the blame on that solely on mayweather is incorrect. and then he beat manny handily.

cotto - he fought cotto right after cotto left top rank. manny tried for months to get a rematch with cotto while cotto was still at top rank and couldnt. mayweather made the fight in like 2 weeks after december 31st. point is, he didnt fight cotto cuz he didnt want to deal with bob arum.

mosley - mosley could have fought floyd earlier, but when he had his shot he claimed a toothache or some ****** dental work bs. that one is on mosley not floyd. plus floyd called him out since the late 90's and mosley showed no interest until he was nearer to the end of his career/when floyd could give him a bigger payday.

margarito - he fought 3 guys that beat margarito. plus margarito is a cheater so who cares.

williams - correct he should have fought williams at some point. but seeing how lara landed 5000 of the exact same punches on williams the exact same way every time, i dont think williams would have troubled floyd.

martinez and ggg - martinez he should have fought but i dont think he's supposed to fight ggg. guys wanna bring up leonard going up to middleweight but leonard is a bigger dude, he started at 140, floyd started at 130.

khan - is this a joke? khan isn't remotely near one of the best. he's not even in the top 5 at welter. and for all this talk of khan's speed...who cares? he has always been fast. it didnt stop him from getting hurt in a lot of his fights. i guarantee you it will do nothing for his legacy whether he fought and beat khan or not.

the point is a lot of times, especially in his recent fights. everyone says he's going to lose to ___________ (fill in the blank with canelo, cotto, pacquiao etc.) and he always won. before this fight most people actually thought pacquiao would win for some strange reason. but of course people forget that after he wins and says he just cherry picks even though right before the fight they were saying he'd lose.

[loui_ludwig]

Except for Paul Williams, Margarito, and Sergio Martinez.

[Rome-By-Ko]

personally I never thought Cotto stood a chance especially back then when Floyd was faster, threw combos, was still defensively great, and actually knocked people out

If that fight happened he would have ruined Cotto's career and trajectory to the top level


I always told people on ESB Cotto with his ear muffs would be a sucker for floyds best punches.....uppercuts and right hands whether looping around or in between


Cotto is an overachiever in my book.

Winky Wright was a career 154...Floyd had like 4 fights over 140 period I didn't see that happening

Mayweather wasn't the shot caller he is today in 2000-2007....He called out Mosley and ODLH since the late 90s and anyone who followed boxing then knows that

So why did he not go to WW to get the fight..You hear a lot about people saying this or that with no actions toward making it a reality..Like you said he was not the shot caller..So why did he not go to 147lb to make the fight happen??Not to mention yes Winky was a career 154lb,yet when Mosley beat Hoya who did he fight next??The same goes for Forest,he fought the guy's that was there who deserved the shot..May has not done this(not really saying he has too either),he's always fought guy's when it suited him most..

His 140lb run was weak imo,and could have been the time when he fought at 147lb and fought against some real solid guy's..Do you think he would have handle Forest easy,cause I don't..Not to mention a prime Mosley or Hoya..I think the Cotto fight would have been great,he was more exp then Canelo was at the time May fought him..His resume was not questioned..It was the absolutely best next step for both,and May did not take history into his hands..Instead retired and came back and fought a LW,this was my biggest issue with May's whole career..It's also the point I started putting everything together about my feelings about his career..

I'll also mention he could have fought Martinez,Martinez was willing to move to 154lb(this was when he was still a small MW)I never heard May mention the mans name..

[youbeight]

no he hasn't.

- didn't fight a prime manny
- didn't fight a prime cotto
- didn't fight a prime mosley
- didn't fight margarito
- didn't fight paul williams
- didn't fight martinez or GGG at 154
- didn't fight khan

etc. etc.

floyd fought way past prime versions of his competition or avoided them completely.

the irony of this is that only mosley fought a prime mayweather, all the rest you named never fought a prime floyd.......