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    #31
    Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
    If Golovkin breaks the MW defense record it will be the most hollow record in all of sports.
    Right up there with world champ #23 Andre Berto
    Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 09-02-2015, 07:03 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
      WTF are you talking about? GGG has 4 defenses of his WBA "Super" World title.

      Hopkins defended LEGIT titles, not a "regular" title!

      Are you seriously sayng that the WBA "Regular" title is a REAL world title?

      Bhop had 12 title defenses of the IBF title, not a "regular" title like GGG.
      You don't get it, the regular title is the "real" WBA title, provided there's no "super" champ in that division. TBF there was a WBA super champ then, Sturm who paid off the WBA to promote him to avoid his GGG mando. Gamboa was in the same boat at FW, Chris John was super, Gamboa regular champ, but most consider Gamboa a legit WBA champ at 126, esp since super champs rarely have to defend.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        This was the fight that got him those September 2012 fans on boxingscene. 90% didn't pay him any attention before this fight, after this fight they were all crying about how Martinez was a bit"h and he didn't fight GGG straight away.
        Wonder why Kellerman didn't ask GGG about fighting Sergio Martinez in the post fight interview?
        A MW making his U.S. and HBO debut and Kellerman asks him about fighting the (then)p4p #2 undisputed SMW champion.
        Shows you how good GGG is.
        Any version of Martinez would've got knocked the **** out.

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          #34
          Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
          WBA "Super" World defenses does count.

          I don't count the WBA "Regular" title as a legit defense.

          Hopkins record was with LEGIT title defenses.
          lol why does one count more than the other? If your argument is that there is another world title out there, wouldn't that apply in both cases? Hopkins had just the IBF for a while, and there were holders of WBO/WBA/WBC titles for a few years before he picked up other belts. What makes the IBF more special in that scenario than the WBA World?

          The distinction of which ones are legit is silly, they are both alphabet soup titles in my view. Someone else could get in on the discussion and argue that it is only legit if it's the unified/universally recognized championship, who is to say that isn't the right way to determine if a world title is "legit"?

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            #35
            Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
            You don't get it, the regular title is the "real" WBA title, provided there's no "super" champ in that division. TBF there was a WBA super champ then, Sturm who paid off the WBA to promote him to avoid his GGG mando. Gamboa was in the same boat at FW, Chris John was super, Gamboa regular champ, but most consider Gamboa a legit WBA champ at 126, esp since super champs rarely have to defend.
            You get the "Regular" title when there is already a "Super" Champion. If there is NO current "Super" champion, you get elevated to that status from "regular" to "super". So yes, I do get it.

            Might as well say that Lara, Thurman & D. Jacobs are all champions of the WBA, not Floyd (154 & 147) or GGG (160)

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              #36
              Originally posted by BrometheusBob View Post
              lol why does one count more than the other? If your argument is that there is another world title out there, wouldn't that apply in both cases? Hopkins had just the IBF for a while, and there were holders of WBO/WBA/WBC titles for a few years before he picked up other belts. What makes the IBF more special in that scenario than the WBA World?

              The distinction of which ones are legit is silly, they are both alphabet soup titles in my view. Someone else could get in on the discussion and argue that it is only legit if it's the unified/universally recognized championship, who is to say that isn't the right way to determine if a world title is "legit"?
              Are you gonna seriously count the WBA "regular" title as a legit world title?

              If so you have to count the defenses of Jacobs, Lara & Thurman.

              Also the IBF was at the time an officially sanctioned belt.

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                #37
                Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                You get the "Regular" title when there is already a "Super" Champion. If there is NO current "Super" champion, you get elevated to that status from "regular" to "super". So yes, I do get it.

                Might as well say that Lara, Thurman & D. Jacobs are all champions of the WBA, not Floyd (154 & 147) or GGG (160)
                The second sentence is pure jibberish, wtf is that ****? Lara is more of a SWW champ than Floyd, who hasn't had a single defense at 154. Jacobs was just touted as the world champ on Pbc telecast, but he's not so legit since unlike the rest, he doesn't even feel ready to fight the " super" champ

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
                  Take the hate somewhere else. We're talking about a star in Gennady Golovkin. A kid from the mean streets of Kazakhstan. He has dynamite in his fist and steel in his jaw. Plus that jab...The way he cuts the ring off says "You can run but you can't hide mother****er!"

                  The man is damn near unbeatable.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
                    Did he win the belt originally because Sturm or someone was too scared to fight him? People talk **** about golovkin's resume but he's been avoided for years, even before he came to the united states. In boxing it is impossible to force someone to fight.


                    Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

                    1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

                    2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

                    3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

                    4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

                    5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

                    6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

                    7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

                    8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".

                    9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.

                    10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly

                    11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG

                    12---andy lee - recently in an interview said that I won't call-out GGG even after the reporter said that you must call him out because you are now a "champion" see below

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Don't change it, answer it honestly. The guy was interim titleholder FFS.
                      GGG won Interim WBA againts Milton Nunez, then he was promoted to full WBA champ b4 Nilson Julio Tapia fight. So from Tapia to Lemiux he will have 15 defenses.




                      Any other question my son?

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