How Many Losses Does Mayweather Really Have?

[GOD-FR33]

2wo.........

Floyd Mayweather Jr has 2wo LEGIT losses, so I said 2wo. He lost to Castillo in the first fight, without question. He also just lost to Manny Pacquiao, 7-5. 115-113. You cannot take away a Champion's title fighting the way he did. PERIOD. Furthermore, Manny landed the more telling blows. He also defended better than Floyd that night. In a close fight like that, who do you give it to? The fighter who looks as if they are fighting for a check? Or the fighter who is actually trying to engage their opponent? If Floyd didn't fight so GAY, he would've gotten his ass beat. He knows it, I know it, Manny knows it, and the tape doesn't LIE. A true champion doesn't fight a smaller opponent backing up. On top of that, he knew Manny hurt his shoulder and STILL refused to try and prove that he was always better. What does that tell you about Floyd? He got 2wo gifts in his career. He beat Maidana in the first and second fight. He beat Cotto down the stretch. He beat an old Oscar down the stretch as well. You cannot clearly say the same about Manny.

[Jc8804]

You can definately make an argument for augustus coming on late . That stoppage was garbage.have gave floyd his toughest fight imo and floyd lucked out somewhat on that bad call. Like quillen vs rosado. He was relieved the doc helped out.

[AllEyesOpen]

Castillo comes close but he still lost. You can't lose 5 out of the first 6 rounds and win a fight unless you pitch a shut out in the remaining 7, which Castillo did not.

Anyone claiming Mayweather lost to Pacquiao is just delusional, as is thinking he lost to Judah for that matter.

[b00g13man]

I don't mean most on the order of Pac/Bradley (aka virtual consensus), more like most on the order of Herrera/Garcia (aka much more than 50%).

That's in spite of the fact that I thought Pac/Bradley was close (I had 7-5 Pac) and the fact that I scored Mayweather over Castillo 7-5.

Yeah, that didn't happen

Even in that sense, that's still not true.

Press row, like most close fights, were split down the middle.

That's exactly how I remember it. Not sure why we're trying to rewrite history.

[musiol]

There are at least 2 losses on Floyds resume unofficially. So when he retires he wont really be considered unbeaten. Unbeaten records are when there were no controversial decisions.
Marciano and Joe Calzaghe didn't have any real controversial decisions, although some try to make out BH beat Joe.

Moral of the story is Floyd might as well fight GGG at middleweight. Then he can boast, yes I lost to Castillo and Madaina, but at least I beat GGG.

Eh u watch boxing Callaghe v Hopkins could of went either way personally thought Hopkins won first 6 rounds and with knockdown and well robin Reid beat Calzage in many peoples eyes both fights split decisions

[Mr. Philadel]

Damn...he's reduced his critics to giving him L's that's not on his record?!?...Damn!!

[HI-TECH Boxing]

How many losses does he really have?
Well his official record say's he doesn't have any defeats, so he really doesn't have any losses.
I, like most people thought he lost to Castillo the first time, but officially he won.
Maidana 1 and the de la Hoya fights were extremely close. If Oscar didn't stop fighting in the second half of the fight he could have won, but he didn't. That's Oscar's fault, not Floyd's.
The only thing I don't get from huge Floyd fans is that they always act like Floyd 12-0's everybody. Even if the fight is close, they say, "Oh he only one like 2 maybe 3 rounds." I just find that hilarious.

[BrometheusBob.]

Even in that sense, that's still not true.

Press row, like most close fights, were split down the middle.

Source bro? I was relatively sure I saw more scorecards for Castillo, but if you can show me otherwise I'll admit I'm wrong.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Arguably Castillo, that's about it and no one has come close since.

[IronDanHamza]

Source bro? I was relatively sure I saw more scorecards for Castillo, but if you can show me otherwise I'll admit I'm wrong.

From the Boxrec report;

"HBO's unofficial scorer Harold Lederman had Castillo winning 115-111, the Associated Press had Mayweather winning 115-111 and Dan Rafael of USA Today had the fight 114-114. [1]"


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These two are old articles that no longer exist. But I had the excerpts saved. The links no longer work but below are the contents of the two articles;



After a few long minutes of anticipation, announcer Michael Buffer read the verdict of the three ringside judges. Most in press row were discussing who we had picked, with half of the media scoring for Mayweather, the other for Castillo. The official scores all favored Mayweather by the tallies of 115-111 (twice) and 116-111 for a surprisingly wide unanimous decision. I also scored it 115-111 for Mayweather, but the rounds were so close, they could have gone either way, making the fight much closer than what the scores read.



Ringside media was split on who won the WBC lightweight title fight, respected scribes like Kevin Iole of the Las Vegas Review Journal and David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press (Mayweather's hometown paper) each had scoring similar to the three judges. Many others had a much smaller margin of victory for 'the Pretty Boy.'

But guys like Jesus Chavez, who lost via TKO to Mayweather last fall, clearly had Castillo retaining his title.

"I think Jose Luis Castillo did an absolutely outstanding job of boxing out there against Floyd," said Chavez, shortly after the verdict wasannounced, "and I think that he should have given him the decision. Unfortunately, the judges didn't see it that way and they gave it to Floyd."

And former two-time WBC lightweight champion Stevie Johnston, who had earlier in the night defeated Alejandro Gonzalez and had two tough bouts against Castillo himself, was even more emphatic in his judgment of the bout.

"Castillo!!!" exclaimed 'Lil' But Bad' when asked who he had winning at the post-fight presser. "He made Floyd run, that's what I saw."

It's evident that while Mayweather got the decision, it was Castillo who's stock rose on this night.