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Cotto-Canelo: Best Win
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Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View PostSo you're saying a guy coming off a surgery and inactivity for over 14 months is a better win than Canelo?
To me prime Mosley existed in 2000 and before.
Mosley hasn't been consistent at all whereas Canelo has only had 2 off nights, Lara and Mayweather.
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I'd still say that for Cotto, Mosley is still his best win - he was coming off of five fight win streak, beating Collazo when Collazo still mattered. He was still close to his prime and was still a massive threat, with only Winky and Vernon proving to be his true better at the time, with Winky proving his mettle at 154. At 147, only Vernon [RIP] was able to beat Mosley definitively.
Canelo has the Lara win, but in no universe will Lara ever be a better win on someone's resume over Cotto, even this past-prime/washed up version. Lara is overrated and alwasy comes up small when it matters. He frankly is an average fighter. His claim to fame is the Paul Williams fight. Against Vanes, Molina, Angulo, Ishe, Hernandez and Canelo - his averageness comes up. He's nothing more than a "decent" win on someone's resume. Good on Canelo for taking that fight and reminding these folks how average he was/is
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Originally posted by JmH Reborn View PostI'd still say that for Cotto, Mosley is still his best win - he was coming off of five fight win streak, beating Collazo when Collazo still mattered. He was still close to his prime and was still a massive threat, with only Winky and Vernon proving to be his true better at the time, with Winky proving his mettle at 154. At 147, only Vernon [RIP] was able to beat Mosley definitively.
Canelo has the Lara win, but in no universe will Lara ever be a better win on someone's resume over Cotto, even this past-prime/washed up version. Lara is overrated and alwasy comes up small when it matters. He frankly is an average fighter. His claim to fame is the Paul Williams fight. Against Vanes, Molina, Angulo, Ishe, Hernandez and Canelo - his averageness comes up. He's nothing more than a "decent" win on someone's resume. Good on Canelo for taking that fight and reminding these folks how average he was/is
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostI voted yes. Both fighters have been looking very good and Cotto is the middleweight champion so prestige wise Cotto is Canelo's best win although beating Lara is harder than beating Cotto in my opinion. Lara would probably beat Cotto but Cotto is far more famous and respected than Lara. I can't think of any win Cotto had that would equal beating today's Canelo because Martinez was injured going into the fight. Canelo vs Lara was close but I have no doubt Canelo deserved the win. Lara ran way to much to deserve the win. Canelo won more rounds. In the rounds they both landed an equal amount of punches Canelo was chasing and Lara was running. Canelo's punches were harder. Lara fans will always insist Lara won. They must like his retreating defensive style because that is how Lara fights whenever he fights an attacking puncher. Canelo haters also jump at the chance to say Lara beat him. Cotto vs Canelo should be a hard fought war and the career best win for the winner.
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Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View PostIt's Canelo's biggest win by far. It is not Cotto's.
Mosley was better than Canelo is when Cotto fought him and he was a world class P4P fighter at the time. Martinez was a better win than Canelo will be as well. Canelo is nothing more than Daniel Geale in my opinion, I find both of them to be B level fighters with 1 or 2 solid wins.
due to styles i think lara was a more difficult fight, but by far cotto will be the most important...
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Lara is a great win for Canelo (JFSD) but I think just in general this as a fight has more magnitude than any fight either men could have, there is not a name out there who gives Canelo or Cotto a bigger fight.
This is what boxing is all about big rivalries and this is potentially the best fight we've got on paper for this year.
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The reason I believe Lara to be a better win is down to him being the worst style match up for Canelo. I also believe Lara would beat Miguel comfortably.
Name wise it would be Canelo's biggest win, but I don't believe it would be his best.
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