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    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    Fair point !

    But exciting, and winning, are two different things.

    The reason why most people are not interested in watching Mayweather rematch Pacquiao OR Marquez, is because neither Pacquiao nor Marquez have much chance of winning.

    I like watching Pacquiao, Marquez, and Mayweather..... but I would not pay to watch Pac or JMM fight Floyd.
    If we get a ref that will call the fouls and I mean, hard warnings and points deducted.

    If we stop getting Floyd's go to Vegas judges to judge his fights. In other words, objective judges.

    If Vegas officials stop protecting Floyd.

    If Manny comes back with 2 good arms.


    While I think Manny beat Floyd in a close fight with one arm, with the above "IFs", I can see Manny beating Floyd clearly next time.

    If you say no, then what would Floyd have done instead of holding on for dear life when Manny was starting his 5-6 punch flurry?

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      Omg how is this thread still alive? There wasn't even anything controversial about the decision. People need to give their bias viewpoints and arguments a rest and move on to the next fight.

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        Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
        I don't think Pacquiao fights like that any more since the Marquez KO.

        I haven't seen him go all out like he used to since that fight.
        Algieri and Bradley II he did, difference is Mayweather is a harder/ more precise puncher.

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          Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
          Algieri and Bradley II he did, difference is Mayweather is a harder/ more precise puncher.
          It was a tactical fight. Close fight.

          The reality of the matter is that Floyd had to foul numerous times to get Manny off of him. The other 2 fighters did not resort to that. remove the fouls and you would see Manny connect percentages increase and you would also see Manny throwing more punches.

          Even if Manny would throw more punches, he would do it tactically. Hit and not get hit or counter Floyd. Again, the plan was not to go balls to the wall, all out attack. Manny didn't even do that with Algieri and Bradley.

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            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
            Algieri and Bradley II he did, difference is Mayweather is a harder/ more precise puncher.
            You mean harder more precise hugger and runner to catch. Yup he is, no time to waste. You have 3 minutes of every round to catch road runner. He's running skills and cat like hugging is an energy diffusing exercise of how not to box lol

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              Originally posted by kdd View Post
              People lie but replay doesn't lie
              That's about the tenth time you've repeated this line. Do you actually think you're proving and winning something by repeating this ad nauseam?

              The video and replay doesn't lie, you're certainly right on that score. It shows Floyd winning the fight 9-3ish, and the judges, media and everyone else, bar a few vocal, but deluded Pac fans, winning the fight both from an official standpoint, UD 12, and by the general unofficial fan/media standpoint.

              The only lie is to yourself by thinking you're actually proving something by pointlessly and mindlessly repeating the same line over and over as if that in itself will prove you right.

              What type of ****ing idiot does that?

              Hey guys, Roberto Duran beat Marvin Hagler. People lie but video doesn't lie.

              What a ****ing ****.

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                Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                You mean harder more precise hugger and runner to catch. Yup he is, no time to waste. You have 3 minutes of every round to catch road runner. He's running skills and cat like hugging is an energy diffusing exercise of how not to box lol
                Call it running or hugging if you want. All fighters do it at certain points. You act like Mayweathers the one who invented it hahaha. He definitely didn't run the entire fight. At the beginning of some rounds he went out on the attack and forced Pacquiao backwards and that can't be denied. What movement he did show, was to evade Pacquiao from pinning him in a corner. He wasn't always able to do it however. But even when Mayweather was pinned in a corner, Pacquiao didn't do anywhere near enough work to damage Mayweather or put doubt in Mayweathers mind.

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                  Salty ass fans and fighters would just come out and say Floyd beat Pacquiao at the right time again. No need for this rematch, boxing fans are to sour about Floyd being on top.

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                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                    Salty ass fans and fighters would just come out and say Floyd beat Pacquiao at the right time again. No need for this rematch, boxing fans are to sour about Floyd being on top.
                    Huh? No one is sour here. Evidences are all on video. Truth is just out.

                    No need for a rematch I agree, since it will just be a repetitive exercise of foul play and biased judging if ever it's done again in Vegas.

                    Anyway, Pac having to beat a guy with just one good arm. Is already legendary to the eyes of many.

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                      Originally posted by kdd View Post
                      That was much better..short and quick..don't say too much

                      Edit: Oh..you just added more lol

                      And u just prove my point rofl.. What about other who says...fill in the blank.. That's their whole argument cuz they can't argue themselves..

                      Video doesn't LIE .. Go watch it
                      When there's a crime, you look at clues of events that transpired. You look back of the trail of evidences that are left.

                      People lie, but what doesn't lie are evidences. Videos of the fight are events captured and trapped in time. Evidences that cannot be changed. The truth is out. Pac truly won that night. Cheers!

                      The trail of evidences.

                      Documented round by round connected punches. Unedited videos. The truth the yellow trunks guy won. 8-4.

                      Videos show the whole truth.

                      Even round 2 where pacfans thought PAc lost actually he did win it as well.

                      This unbiased video clearly show pac even won the 2nd round as well. All there. Time stamp it if you want to dispute, but I assure you can't because the truth hurts. Pac really won it and including 7 more rounds to go with it.



                      Floyd's heist is getting clearer by the day.

                      It's now 8-4 for pac. Those who want to dispute this video TIME STAMP IT. VIDEOS DON'T LIE.



                      Manny won rounds 2, 3,4,6,7,8,10,12

                      Since, you want a full round. here some of the rounds that were in question.

                      round 3, documented connnected punches



                      round 6, documented connected punches



                      Round 12, documented connected punches

                      clearly Pac's round.



                      round 8 documented connected punches

                      Last edited by Spoon23; 07-06-2015, 12:52 AM.

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