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Pathetic Pac fans. Take your loss like men...if you can. Your boy...your hero...your God....lost fair and square. You guys were ready with any excuse you can lined up huh? Suckers, all of you. You have no idea how ecstatic this fight made people who are not Pac fans. We all knew for years how blind you all were and could not see Manny's faults and flaws. How he had no defense, less than mediocre technical skills and an inability to adjust because he has a low boxing IQ. He won fights on speed, athleticism and power alone. Which was enough, 90% of the time sure. But when he faced true technicians and skilled boxers with high boxing IQ's (JMM & Floyd), he lost almost every time. I do not count his wins in JMM fights 2 & 3 because he lost those in reality, those were complete BS. So he is 1 - 4 against the elite A+ level technicians. Sorry but accept the truth. I highly suggest he does not get in the ring with Kell Brook or Keith Thurman either, because then he will not only be outclassed he will be knocked out or punished.
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostESPN expert analyst Teddy Atlas is turning his back on any discussion of Manny Pacquiao's performance being attributed to a right shoulder injury. Following this past Saturday night's twelve round unanimous decision loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Pacquiao claimed to have suffered an injury to a his right should about two weeks back. An MRI revealed a tear, said Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank.
Atlas was ringside for the fight at the MGM and saw no evidence of Pacquiao's shoulder being injured. He did feel Pacquiao was hesitant to get on the inside because Mayweather's quick jab and right hand counters were connecting when he made attempts to do so.
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Originally posted by I Love Jesus! View PostTeddy is just another fraud/boxing conman who never even stepped into the ring but thinks he knows it all.
The scar on the left side of his face is the result of a knife wound from a street altercation. It required 400 stitches.
Won the Adirondack Golden Gloves Light Welterweight Championship in 1976. Atlas quit boxing because of a back injury.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostYou guys are funny. Teddy Atlas hates Manny with a passion for like forever. Same with Paulie Malignaggi. They are the ones that have 0 stock.
Remember that Manny's team contacted USADA on this weeks ago. So its not something that they invented ..... but I get it, most who are criticizing are the same Floyd fans that would defend on Floyd for even less evidence.
Just saying.....
Dude, when Pacquiao killed the Mayweather fight in 2009 by walking away from the table and refusing random blood tests, Freddie Roach admitted that some people would find that su****ious.
Under amateur regulations..... forget testing positive, if you hinder/obstruct/avoid the testing protocol in any way whatsoever, you are instantly stripped/banned/and labelled a drug cheat.
Only hardcore (ignorant) Pacquiao fans did not find that su****ious.
Only hardcore (ignorant) Pacquiao fans think that Pacquiao should be regarded as clean, simply because he is a nice guy.
Atlas/Malinaggi have a right to their opinions, according to Freddie Roach.
Check out the Brian Kenny interview, Roach admitted that some people would be su****ious of Pacquiao because he killed that fight by refusing random blood tests.
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IMHO, I am over the steroid thing, it has been done to death.
But, seeing that the subject came up again.....
I posted this on the other thread yesterday.
Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostManny Steward nailed it during the commentary of Marquez II and Diaz.
Go watch the fights, and listen to Stewards comments on Manny.
Steward is a genuine Pacfan, and a genuine boxing expert..... when he was commenting he wasnt thinking about steroids, or trying to discredit Manny..... he was simply commenting on what was unfolding in front of him.
During Marquez II..... "Manny looks shopworn, hes been in too many hard fights, it might be time for him to retire".
During Diaz, only 3 months later..... "wow, the change is amazing, Manny looks revitalised, refreshed"
Pac then put on 15lb of muscle in 9 months whilst skipping through 3 divisions..... increasing speed/power, and doubling his punch output.
Making a massive weight gain, whilst increasing your punch output, is highly su****ious.
Before, Pac was a usual 600 punch fighter, so the 1200 that he threw against Clottey after making that huge weight gain......
The 40lbs that Pac gained throughout his career, is the second highest recorded weight gain in history..... second only by 1lb, to a guy who ended up at heavyweight, and who used steroids to get there. Just think about that willya, and then explain it to me, because.....
Then Pac killed the Mayweather fight by refusing blood tests.
I think I know whats up
I just dont agree that Pac is a complete hypejob, because steroids will only achieve so much, they wont make you a better fighter..... and Pac wasnt on anything when he fought Marquez the first 2x.
I'd love to know how good Pac really is, but if truth be know, he likely sits just above Morales/Barrera/Marquez/etc..... because I dont know if the latter part of his career is genuine.
Since Pac started blood testing, his level of opposition dropped badly, and he got outclassed by Mayweather. So, not sure really.....
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostPacquaio is rapidly losing respect and its sad to see.
His die hard fans are ******ed and its great seeing them wound up but I don't like seeing Pacquaio losing respect because he's a legend.
But he's bringing it on himself.
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Originally posted by DeanR415 View PostOnce Pacquiao decides not to disclose his shoulder before the fight, he's given up the right to bellyache/moan about it afterward.
If the injury is serious, postpone the fight. If it's trivial, fight like a man and accept the consequences.
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