Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Sparring Partner Says Injury is Legit

[Dle]

So if they knew of any such injury, they could've post-phoned. Made Floyd wait 6 weeks. Don't deceive the boxing fans that's been loyal to you. And if you do fight don't bring it up later as your scapegoat excuse. Obviously, there was no plan A, B, nor C. All were lies. Shame on you Paquioa. You could've at least acknowledged that Floyd was the better man Saturday. Don't cry now.

[darius45]

Manny is a liar and didn't show up to fight. No true fan should let him get away with that.

I agree. Although part of me still wants to see a rematch... I'd rather see Thurman get his shot especially if Floyd really only has one more fight...

Although I see Floyd's last fight being a sort of handing off of the torch... And what better fighter to do that with than Thurman... manny is already going to retire anyways... Let thurman get the big PPV coverage...

If Manny's injury really did prevent him from completely engaging and performing at 100%, i dunno what to say... he should of just postponed the fight... I understand he was under a ton of pressure from Arum and his entire country... so if he was genuinely hurt, then he deserves some praise for pushing through it... But on the other hand... He knows he was only probably going to have one shot at Floyd...

Sticky situation... My gut tells me Floyd rematches Manny because the PPV numbers are so ridic high....And the crazy pac fans will never stop until he gets the rematch... but the outcome will be the same, a little closer definitely... maybe 115-113 now... but it will still be clear who won...

Don't get suckered into paying for a rematch people...

[nj_evoixgsr]

Bulls hit and an excuse without an MRI and a report from a doctor that he is seeking a surgery as soon as possible.

still no rematch is going to happen. This big money fight will never happen again. It would take a year for it to even heal then setup a possible rematch. No way does floyd sign up again. He was getting tagged in the first few rounds and visually hurt.

I wouldn't even pay close to that amount. They hustled us. They need to drop it in cowboy stadium or a huge venue so everyone can watch and ppv closer to 50-60 to get ANY attention. Even then I doubt people will want to watch.

[GRUSTLER]

They are not talking about the scenario when Mayweather is completely turtled and stagnant. They are talking about when they are close enough to land a punch in general. The risk for getting counter punched when FMJ is coming off of a straight left that staggered him a bit and is standing in a stance where he is walled off completely and looks like he's even covering his face enough to possibly be obstructing vision is questionable at best.

Please man..... just give it up because I bet that as long as Pacquiao and his team make up these excuses the worst his legacy is going to suffer because everyone who saw that fight from a boxing not fan stand point saw Floyd beating Manny rather easily. Even Max Kellerman was surprised when Manny said he thought he won not to mention Manny says Floyd didn't stand still so he could hit him. Are you serious? Pacquiao is supposed to be an elite fighter but yet he wished Floyd stood in front of him all night so he could land punches? He didn't think he would have to actually box? At times Floyd stood right in front of him and when he took the fight to Pacquiao is actually connected a lot harder being more effective. Manny had no chance and I think it is completely shameful that people are prolonging these excuses and debates for 6 years and counting. Manny Pacquiao lost, Mayweather is the best.... the end.

[Hype job]

Did you read the twitter feed that was posted? Are the twitter feed legit? Is there something wrong in name?

No but there's something wrong with your grammar

[BrometheusBob.]

Please man..... just give it up because I bet that as long as Pacquiao and his team make up these excuses the worst his legacy is going to suffer because everyone who saw that fight from a boxing not fan stand point saw Floyd beating Manny rather easily. Even Max Kellerman was surprised when Manny said he thought he won not to mention Manny says Floyd didn't stand still so he could hit him. Are you serious? Pacquiao is supposed to be an elite fighter but yet he wished Floyd stood in front of him all night so he could land punches? He didn't think he would have to actually box? At times Floyd stood right in front of him and when he took the fight to Pacquiao is actually connected a lot harder being more effective. Manny had no chance and I think it is completely shameful that people are prolonging these excuses and debates for 6 years and counting. Manny Pacquiao lost, Mayweather is the best.... the end.

Of course Max Kellerman was surprised because of course Manny lost. I never refuted that. I am even willing to concede that FMJ is the better boxer. That doesn't mean this injury is baloney and that doesn't mean he couldn't possibly win.

[Robbie Barrett]

They are not talking about the scenario when Mayweather is completely turtled and stagnant. They are talking about when they are close enough to land a punch in general. The risk for getting counter punched when FMJ is coming off of a straight left that staggered him a bit and is standing in a stance where he is walled off completely and looks like he's even covering his face enough to possibly be obstructing vision is questionable at best.

Yes he is talking about that scenario.

"When we get him against the ropes, we need to land flashy flurries 5,6,7,8 punch combinations. Because Floyd doesn't counter until you are through. So if we throw 5,6 punches combinations and get under and out i think we'll be in safe territory."

That's exactly what Pacquiao did in round 4.

[Caught Square]

Well that means no rematch since the injury will take up to 9 months to recover and Floyd is fighting in September.

[megas30]

Again, I have no idea why he was obligated to mention the injury to Max Kellerman and why it wasn't ok to mention it in the post fight presser instead. I just can't see why that few minutes means so much, and it could be the case that he thought he won AND had a shoulder injury.

I do not doubt he loss. 8-4 Mayweather in my mind. FMJ demonstrated that just being fast isn't enough to overcome his reflexes and fast counter-punching speed, and he deserves credit for this win.

No one is suggesting or would believe that he had an incapacitating injury going into the ring. He obviously had some physical ability to throw his right, I'm saying that it could be the case that this ability was meaningfully diminished through injury. Even if that's true, I'm not necessarily convinced he would have gone on to win. It's hard to say whether the extent of the injury had any meaningful impact on the fight. But, that doesn't mean that the injury isn't real or that we shouldn't wait to hear more about this.

Because he damn well said he thought he won. He also said, if Floyd stood still he would have thrown more punches. So the logical understanding is that it wasn't his shoulder that was the issue; it was the fact that Mayweather wasn't standing still. If he had said, no matter what Floyd did, I wouldn't have been able to doing anything because I was compromised by an injury, then it would have been a different story. Instead, basically, what we get is that my arms would have been fine if he just stood there let me hit on him, and I would have been the new age evangelist and said, look world god delivered the evil guy to me, and this win is for the ppl and testament to his almighty powers.

[BrometheusBob.]

Yes he is talking about that scenario.

"When we get him against the ropes, we need to land flashy flurries 5,6,7,8 punch combinations. Because Floyd doesn't counter until you are through. So if we throw 5,6 punches combinations and get under and out i think we'll be in safe territory."

That's exactly what Pacquiao did in round 4.

I listened again. You're right about it being about it on the ropes, but not sure Roach would want Manny to stop throwing considering the context of the preceeding stinging straight left that hurt Floyd a bit and the turtled position he was in from which a counter would not be all that easy to get off. But maybe I'm wrong.