Originally posted by jdp28tx
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You know I saw the huge size of the ring and I said that is it for Manny. No way can one throw a lot, land a lot, or cutt-off the ring when its 25ft ring. Especially when one is fighting a defensive runner. That is what ticked me off about the so-called experts and tonight's commentators. They think a fighter can cutt-off the ring when its 25ft ring and throw 80 punches a round against a defensive runner in a 25ft ring. It is impossible no matter how good of an offensive fighter one is. You can't force another fighter to stay still, you cannot hold them and make them stay put. It is impossible to keep a high punch output in these circumstances.
As for Mayweather all of a sudden he comes along and overturns decades of boxing thought and that is changing the rule that offense wins fights to defense wins fights. Yes, defense is part of the scoring, but it is the least important part of scoring and counts the least. All of a sudden throwing 35 punches per rd wins u a fight if you land 50% of them. But that is only a pathetic 17 punches per rd. Even the great defensive master Pernell Whitaker had an amazing offense. Hector Comacho later in his career did what Floyd did and judges would not give him the fights and pundits would criticize him for it. Defense was the least important part of scoring. It was always a huge deal that Willie Pep was once given a round just soley based on defense when he won a rd without throwing a punch that is because defense was thought of so little when scoring a rd.
This needs to change; no more 25ft rings, no more giving defense so much weight and no more allowing a fighter to win based on an avg of throwing 35 punches per rd.
Also, I am sick of these fighters who fight Mayweather and give him everything he wants. One thing Manny should of never allowed was a ring that large. That is what killed Maidana in the rematch and that is what was a huge part of Manny losing tonight. Another big issue is Manny is way past his prime and Floyd is not. Smaller fighters have shorter primes, especially fighters like Manny and if u recall Floyd took a 2 yr layoff from the sport which helped him stay younger. This fight should of happened 5 yrs ago and since it did not it should of never happened. Hell, I recall when Sugar Ray fought Terry Norris and he was 35yrs of age and all the boxing pundits never like to really count that fight because Ray was past his prime they would say. Sugar Rays career was never as taxing as Manny's career and Manny is a year older that when Ray lost to Norris.
As for Mayweather all of a sudden he comes along and overturns decades of boxing thought and that is changing the rule that offense wins fights to defense wins fights. Yes, defense is part of the scoring, but it is the least important part of scoring and counts the least. All of a sudden throwing 35 punches per rd wins u a fight if you land 50% of them. But that is only a pathetic 17 punches per rd. Even the great defensive master Pernell Whitaker had an amazing offense. Hector Comacho later in his career did what Floyd did and judges would not give him the fights and pundits would criticize him for it. Defense was the least important part of scoring. It was always a huge deal that Willie Pep was once given a round just soley based on defense when he won a rd without throwing a punch that is because defense was thought of so little when scoring a rd.
This needs to change; no more 25ft rings, no more giving defense so much weight and no more allowing a fighter to win based on an avg of throwing 35 punches per rd.
Also, I am sick of these fighters who fight Mayweather and give him everything he wants. One thing Manny should of never allowed was a ring that large. That is what killed Maidana in the rematch and that is what was a huge part of Manny losing tonight. Another big issue is Manny is way past his prime and Floyd is not. Smaller fighters have shorter primes, especially fighters like Manny and if u recall Floyd took a 2 yr layoff from the sport which helped him stay younger. This fight should of happened 5 yrs ago and since it did not it should of never happened. Hell, I recall when Sugar Ray fought Terry Norris and he was 35yrs of age and all the boxing pundits never like to really count that fight because Ray was past his prime they would say. Sugar Rays career was never as taxing as Manny's career and Manny is a year older that when Ray lost to Norris.
I agree, Mayweather didn't hurt Pacquiao, no matter how you look at it.
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