Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas: Pacquiao is Not as Big, You Figure Out Why!

[nacho daddy]

Pacquiao cycled off the peds so it makes sense that he's smaller now

so mayfeather is bigger AT 40 and more cut now so does it mean he is off juice or on it

[Jab-Slip-Troll]

When SPEED is the X-factor in this fight.... that PED BS is going right out the window. As seen in Pac training camp.... speed is the name of the game, just like DLH and Cotto.

[ИATAS]

Yeah Teddy, I'm sure aging 6 years has nothing to do with it at all. Not to mention moving up in weight from 130 to 147 and fighting naturally bigger guys for the most part.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Atlas is a fuc kin moron.

[john88]

teddy atlas is a f.uck!ng racist..he is a piece of **** in a boxing community.this gay pretends to be a boxing expert cu.nt which in reality he does not know **** about boxing.

[Calabis]

But Flroid got all bulked up by choppin wood doe? LMAO....those Ariza shakes must be doing wonders mang.

Lmao off at this dude, Floyd looks huge, yet comes in at 146lbs.

[Scipio2009]

You must be seriously delusional. You know what Pacquiao would look like if you take 40 lbs off him right now? I don't know where you found your information but they are a bunch of lies, lies to support the agenda.

Pacquiao was 16 yrs old when he started pro. His first two losses are both due to draining himself weak and still not able to make weight. He was penalized both times, he had to wear heavier gloves.

He drained himself and weighed 142 fight night against Morales for his superfeather (130) fight in 2006. He ate and drank and weighed 148 fight night against DelaHoya for his welter (147) fight in 2008. That's 6 lbs gain over 2 yrs. Come fight night Saturday he will be 149. He found if he didnt drain himself that he felt stronger and faster.

Isn't that where all this ped talk started with DelaHoya? People with this agenda were/are making sure they impress upon everyone who would listen how he went 4 divisions in one year. Paulie with his lies.

So please explain with facts your delusional 40 lbs gain.

The PED talk started when Pacquiao buzzsawed through Miguel Cotto; once Oscar stepped on the scale looking gaunt (and then not rehydrating the next date) that fate was pretty well set. The fact that Pacquiao outright refused to entertain random blood/urine testing with like $50m on the table, launched the PED speculation.

Pacquiao may have started fighting at the age of 16, but the fact still stands that he was 20 years of age, still fighting at 112 pounds. Manny Pacquiao was 24 years of age, fighting at 122 pounds.

At all of 5'6 and after puberty, Pacquiao was able to fight up another 25 pounds, not lose any speed, not lose any power (until people started asking questions), yet no one is supposed to question it?

You look at boxing's recent history and what fighters can you point to who have added anywhere near that amount of weight without losing anything? Hearns and Holyfield immediately come to my mind, but both guys had 6'2 frames that they were simply finally filling out.

Floyd went from being a destructive puncher at 130 (age 24), a good puncher at 135, a solid puncher at 140, and a guy with good enough power at 147/154. All within 25 pounds, like nearly every other fighter to ever put on a pair of gloves in the history of the sport.

Pacquiao is a clear outlier to the history of the sport, while also having made the decision to avoid a massive fight and a ton of money over not wanting to draw a bit blood. ignore the smoke if you want.

[brown_knight06]

The PED talk started when Pacquiao buzzsawed through Miguel Cotto; once Oscar stepped on the scale looking gaunt (and then not rehydrating the next date) that fate was pretty well set. The fact that Pacquiao outright refused to entertain random blood/urine testing with like $50m on the table, launched the PED speculation.

Pacquiao may have started fighting at the age of 16, but the fact still stands that he was 20 years of age, still fighting at 112 pounds. Manny Pacquiao was 24 years of age, fighting at 122 pounds.

At all of 5'6 and after puberty, Pacquiao was able to fight up another 25 pounds, not lose any speed, not lose any power (until people started asking questions), yet no one is supposed to question it?

You look at boxing's recent history and what fighters can you point to who have added anywhere near that amount of weight without losing anything? Hearns and Holyfield immediately come to my mind, but both guys had 6'2 frames that they were simply finally filling out.

Floyd went from being a destructive puncher at 130 (age 24), a good puncher at 135, a solid puncher at 140, and a guy with good enough power at 147/154. All within 25 pounds, like nearly every other fighter to ever put on a pair of gloves in the history of the sport.

Pacquiao is a clear outlier to the history of the sport, while also having made the decision to avoid a massive fight and a ton of money over not wanting to draw a bit blood. ignore the smoke if you want.

I will leave this here for you. Please pass it on to "tbe" and the goblin atlas. More evidence here then Pacman refusing the frauds demands.

Wow. Shocking PED cover up going on with Mayweather and Golden Boy. Very interesting article by respected journalist Thomas Hauser. It's a long read but very worthwhile and recommended of you're a fan of the sport. But I'll try to highlight the interesting parts for yall.

Basically, Golden Boy Promotions along with USADA, have been covering up positive test results for their fighters who've failed test. Most recently, Erik Morales. That's boxing for you

The PED Mess, Part One

The PED Mess, Part Two

Quote:
On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

As part of the settlement, the Mayweathers and Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”

I don’t know if Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs or not.

I do know that, if Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent and the public, we have an ingredient that could contribute to the making of a scandal.

[C-SHO]

Gee. ....Pac beat prime fighters like a Tim Bradley at the age of 33-35...credit his skill.

Pac looks the same pretty much. In fact, he's showing natural aging by not putting down everybody.

It has nothing to do with any change in body or mass... He was just more hungry and aggressive. Testosterone tends to be higher in your late 20s or early 30s compared to mid-30s...Thus he was more aggressive and wanted to destroy back then.

Terrible post... Power is the last thing a fighter loses.The fact is he would lose his speed before his power.

[frantic fighter]

Buboy started taking his meals.