PBC Belts are in production

[Mitchell Kane]

They still not the big draws and its hard for them to reach mainstream the way a Mexican or a Rican can based of their nationality. I still never seen a european fighter become a big time A side here in the USA.

Which is funny that you mention it, because Top Rank and Golden Boy are far more established with the Mexican market than the PBC...and Top Rank looks poised for the PR market with Verdejo...and Cotto went to Roc Nation.

[The Gambler1981]

Hollywood Hogan nWo spraypaint strap and Stone Cold Smoking Skull belt were better.

I liked the Edge spinner belt.

[Fetta]

The article below is a good read. See Item 2 of the 10 count about the advertising. I saw the fights and noticed little actual advertising, but did see repetitious spots on fighters plugging themselves. If advertisers were willing to pony up for slots on Haymon's show, do you really think Haymon would have said, "Thanks, but no thanks. I want Quillin, Garcia, Figueroa and Wilder to occupy a 2 hour show's advert slots over and over and over again, for exposure."?

Right now, I see similarities of the Haymon we all know and despise. You can keep making excuses for uncle Al. Your check is in the mail. Oh wait, no it isn't.


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So i other words like i said boxing is worse than i thought then. Thank god for PBC

More commercials that we want or at least thats what you want.

I wish i was part of PBC. Getting a check from then would be awesome.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Which is funny that you mention it, because Top Rank and Golden Boy are far more established with the Mexican market than the PBC...and Top Rank looks poised for the PR market with Verdejo...and Cotto went to Roc Nation.

Yes, and like i have said earlier in this thread,, its gonna take time and years..

10 years from now, the whole situation will have changed..

I don't expect PBC to take over until at least this current crop of fighters are retired, by the time the 2020 olympians and especially 2024, the landscape of the business will be completely different than it is today..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

IF there is someone who does not understand basic business concepts here, it is you. Vince McMahon does not advise or manage any of the wrestlers in the WWE. Dana White and the Ferita brothers do not advise of manage any of the fighters in the UFC. Bud Selig does not manage or advise any MLB player. The commissioner of the NFL does not have personal contracts with any football player or team. THEY CANNOT AS IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND ILLEGAL.

Haymon cannot legally be in control of a boxing 'league' or be the 'commissioner' of such a league while also having the athletes who work for that league under personal services contracts such as an advisor or manager.

Now, when you accept that as a fact we can continue the discussion. Until then, do not bother replying to my posts as I am done with trying to have an intelligent discussion with someone who obviously is not able to participate.

Jeez,,,,,

Like Haymon won't figure out all the legalities.. The guy is a brilliant bushiness man, and I'm sure he will change how he operates to be legal...

Just like when schafer and GBP split, didn't al get all his fighters out of there, same thing with this...

[Barcham]

So i other words like i said boxing is worse than i thought then. Thank god for PBC

More commercials that we want or at least thats what you want.

I wish i was part of PBC. Getting a check from then would be awesome.

Yes, and like i have said earlier in this thread,, its gonna take time and years..

10 years from now, the whole situation will have changed..

I don't expect PBC to take over until at least this current crop of fighters are retired, by the time the 2020 olympians and especially 2024, the landscape of the business will be completely different than it is today..

So you guys expect the PBC to survive for 10 years, losing millions of dollars per show because they have no advertisers and you actually think they have a chance to take over? I sure am glad you guys aren't managing my money.

[Strategic1]

When UFC got big, it was new and had no competitors. Difference in boxing, is that HBO is an established brand. People who follow the sport already know HBO, Golden Boy and some of the other smaller promotions.

PBC can definitely increase interest amongst casuals. But those who follow the sport already, know some of the biggest names are with HBO.

I love how PBC and boxing in general is on network television. Just hope we'll see promoters work together occasionally.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Which is funny that you mention it, because Top Rank and Golden Boy are far more established with the Mexican market than the PBC...and Top Rank looks poised for the PR market with Verdejo...and Cotto went to Roc Nation.

That is why I said that if Haymon taps in to that market and gets those prospects is game over for those companies. They make money thanks to those fan bases.

[Beater_of_ass]

Can't say I'm surprised, they've said they wanted a UFC model and it's apparent that's what Haymon is going for. I don't know if it will work out good or bad, I could care less about the belts though. Haymon would have to be a complete idiot to have any fight for the that belt or even appear on PBC who wasn't signed with Haymon... Then again I wonder what a fight like Canelo/Kirkland would do on free TV or whoever Cotto faces next.

The reason I bring them up is that Haymon has Floyd and then virtually uknown people with no one in between. If Thurman could draw 3.5 or so, is getting a 5 or 6 rating out of the question for 2nd tier draws like Canelo and Cotto? That's a strong number and would get more interest than something like Thurman. I think a big NBA game during the season gets like 6 or 7, boxing being a close second would gain a lot of coverage I would imagine. The revenue may bring more than HBO is willing to pay as well.

[-PBP-]

So you guys expect the PBC to survive for 10 years, losing millions of dollars per show because they have no advertisers and you actually think they have a chance to take over? I sure am glad you guys aren't managing my money.

Heard of a startup business? Twitter has yet to earn a profit yet and it's worth billions. If investors think you have a marketable product they will give you cash to burn in anticipation of a future return.