Al Haymon's Venture ship has started to sink

[Rath]

Good post, respectable fights on free TV and these "boxing fans" are bythcing every step of the way. Hard to understand

Very good post. good on you supporting FREE TV.

now do you support Floyd Floyd's choice of MGM, late announcement of the fight and TMT Promotions job in building up the fight?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I don't find the fights competitive, I don't care about the commercials - if they don't make any advertising money that is their problem, the fight promos are amateurish and make the fighters look ******, and the entire production is boring as hell.

Lmao,,, keep drinking the hatorade...


Thurman v Guerrero was such a mismatch.. Lmao
Damn near every fight made is a toss up


Your a joke of a fan

The fight promos are amateurish? Who the **** cares, and please show me a "professional" promo....


****in ******s on this thread

[Rath]

Wtf does that have anything to do with topic....

Lmao at the notion that TMT somehow messed up the promotion of the fight.. It's breaking records and will generate half a billion, and literally has nothing to do with PBC, so why the **** are you bringing it up

well if you can not see the relationship between the two then that confirms how genius you are.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

well if you can not see the relationship between the two then that confirms how genius you are.

No it just shows your a ****ing hater....

One has nothing to do with the other....

Your a ****ing hater,, whining about floyd in a thread about PBC...

IF YOU CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TMT AND PBC THEN YOUR A ****ING ******

[Rath]

No it just shows your a ****ing hater....

One has nothing to do with the other....

Your a ****ing hater,, whining about floyd in a thread about PBC...

IF YOU CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TMT AND PBC THEN YOUR A ****ING ******

Telling me i am a ****ing ****** because TMT and PBC don't have anything to do with each other.

but then saying it's breaking all the record because somehow TMT did not messed up the build up to the fight is ****ing genius.

[Weebler I]

If your a boxing fan then there is no reason to hate on PBC unless your a bytch or racist..

Honestly,, how can any fan hate on PBC.... We should all be hoping they succeed

Competitive fights on free tv, and we got people hating on it..

Hoping they succeed shouldn't doesn't mean ignoring shortcomings.

The fights really aren't that competitive thus far, Beterbiev-Campillo was a wipe-out, Stevenson-Bika was 11-1, Broner-Molina Jr 12-0, Mares v sparring partner.

Thurman-Guerrero was the best fight, but I think it was like a 10-2 type fight.

I agree, support the principle of boxing on network TV but fans shouldn't be blind to the quality of the product because for it to succeed and sponsors to be interested, it has to be good and thus far the match-ups have left something to be desired, they're mostly typical Haymon match-ups (i.e. big money for one-sided fights) and therein lies the problem.

Haymon is caught between being a manager and a promoter, he's getting the big paydays for his guys as a manager with low-risk like he used to do but with PBC he now needs exciting fights to build a following and he can't do that without high risk bouts.

You would never have seen Stevenson vs bika on network television

lol I'm not sure people wanted to see it on any television, or at least no one was calling for it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Telling me i am a ****ing ****** because TMT and PBC don't have anything to do with each other.

but then saying it's breaking all the record because somehow TMT did not messed up the build up to the fight is ****ing genius.

Lmao..

Rath I like you as a poster in other threads, but here your being a hater... What does floyd have to do with PBC... Nothing... So why even bring him into the conversation.. Just shows your blind with hatred

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Hoping they succeed shouldn't doesn't mean ignoring shortcomings.

The fights really aren't that competitive thus far, Beterbiev-Campillo was a wipe-out, Stevenson-Bika was 11-1, Broner-Molina Jr 12-0, Mares v sparring partner.

Thurman-Guerrero was the best fight, but I think it was like a 10-2 type fight.

I agree, support the principle of boxing on network TV but fans shouldn't be blind to the quality of the product because for it to succeed and sponsors to be interested, it has to be good and thus far the match-ups have left something to be desired, they're mostly typical Haymon match-ups (i.e. big money for one-sided fights) and therein lies the problem.

Haymon is caught between being a manager and a promoter, he's getting the big paydays for his guys as a manager with low-risk like he used to do but with PBC he now needs exciting fights to build a following and he can't do that without high risk bouts.



lol I'm not sure people wanted to see it on any television, or at least no one was calling for it.

Nearly all the fights were good competitive fights on paper... Just happened to be some lopsided fights in reality, but can't really blame the matchmaking.. They seem to be matching guys up in the main event pretty solid while trying to test young guys on the undercards..

[Rath]

Nearly all the fights were good competitive fights on paper... Just happened to be some lopsided fights in reality, but can't really blame the matchmaking.. They seem to be matching guys up in the main event pretty solid while trying to test young guys on the undercards..

I read about somewhere that Top Rank have some matchmaker in their payroll.

who exactly is Haymon's matchmaker?

is there somebody else or is is haymon himself doing the matchmaking?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I read about somewhere that Top Rank have some matchmaker in their payroll.

who exactly is Haymon's matchmaker?

is there somebody else or is is haymon himself doing the matchmaking?

Does it matter,,,,