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    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
    Honestly don't see what else it could have been, Bradley didn't complicate things much in the rematch so it could have only been body punching.
    bro, bradley was dodging and swinging down to his waist, completely different than how he fought the first time around, if u cant see this and say bradley fought the same way in both fights then u clearly didnt watch the rematch.

    and in the rematch the fight was being fought at a high pace with both fighters throwing bombs, feet planted down. this is gonna tired anyone out regardless of how much stamina they have. i mean even bradley was exhausted and this is not a common thing for bradley.

    im not saying body shots doesnt slow pac down because obviously it does, im just saying i believe the weird movements of bradley in the rematch is what caused pac to tired out more than those bodyshots from bradley.

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      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
      Feint up top, then lead right hand to the midsection, this whilst on the outside, Pacquiao is too susceptible for Mayweather not to utilize that. Attacking the body will preserve his hands too.

      Now jabbing to the body, I just don't see it and if he does that it's gonna be minimal.
      maybe occasionally.

      not too much.

      i don't like throwing the body from the outside with fast guys.

      it's like throwing uppercuts from outside, you can get away with it vs slower opponents but kinda leaves you open.

      i can see pac countering it. best floyd work the body when pac gets inside.

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        Originally posted by Evol View Post
        bro, bradley was dodging and swinging down to his waist, completely different than how he fought the first time around, if u cant see this and say bradley fought the same way in both fights then u clearly didnt watch the rematch.

        and in the rematch the fight was being fought at a high pace with both fighters throwing bombs, feet planted down. this is gonna tired anyone out regardless of how much stamina they have. i mean even bradley was exhausted and this is not a common thing for bradley.

        im not saying body shots doesnt slow pac down because obviously it does, im just saying i believe the weird movements of bradley in the rematch is what caused pac to tired out more than those bodyshots from bradley.
        I said the opposite, he didn't fight the same way in both fights.

        Aren't you making too many excuses though? Pacquiao slowed in the first fight due to body punching and yet you say he was unmotivated. One doesn't lose the championship rounds because they're unmotivated, that just doesn't happen.

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          Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
          Body punching took away Pacquiao's legs in both Bradley fights, as well as against Morales in the 1st fight. You can see why body punching is a focus point in the Mayweather camp.
          Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
          Feint up top, then lead right hand to the midsection, this whilst on the outside, Pacquiao is too susceptible for Mayweather not to utilize that. Attacking the body will preserve his hands too.

          Now jabbing to the body, I just don't see it and if he does that it's gonna be minimal.
          Good posts

          Agree

          But part of it is PAC thought he was winning comfortable so didn't step on the gas. I'm talking about first Bradley fight
          Last edited by jas; 04-17-2015, 10:48 AM.

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            i didn't see pacquiao tire in bradley II

            i saw pacquiao "tired", like most fighters in the second half, he was no more tired in the second bradley fight than he was against margarito, or clottey in the second half, in bradley I, he was tired, and gave rounds up because of it

            only bradley blew his load in that fight, and it was the reason for his early success, and his late downfall, pacquiao kept up with him the entire night

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              Body punching does affect your legs

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                Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                I said the opposite, he didn't fight the same way in both fights.

                Aren't you making too many excuses though? Pacquiao slowed in the first fight due to body punching and yet you say he was unmotivated. One doesn't lose the championship rounds because they're unmotivated, that just doesn't happen.
                PAC was like what 30min late for his ring walk in, and u're saying I'm making excuses about PAC being unmotivated? I even said body shots slowed PAC down but I believe in the bradley fight it wasn't the body shots from Bradley that made PAC look tired.

                And PAC clearly beat bradley in the first fight, so Bradley got the 12th round, so what? And didn't Bradley boxed PAC more in those later rounds making it harder for manny to land in terms Bradley was able to steal those rounds.

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                  Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                  i didn't see pacquiao tire in bradley II

                  i saw pacquiao tired, like most fighters in the second half, he was no more tired in the second bradley fight than he was against margarito, or clottey in the second half, in bradley I, he was ttired, and gave rounds up because of it

                  only bradley blew his load in that fight, and it was the reason for his early success, and his late downfall, pacquiao kept up with him the entire night
                  Yea he was good in Bradley II

                  Only lost round 11 in 2nd half of that fight

                  Legs were good throughout

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                    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                    I said the opposite, he didn't fight the same way in both fights.

                    Aren't you making too many excuses though? Pacquiao slowed in the first fight due to body punching and yet you say he was unmotivated. One doesn't lose the championship rounds because they're unmotivated, that just doesn't happen.
                    Bradley I, Manny thought he had a huge lead.

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                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                      maybe occasionally.

                      not too much.

                      i don't like throwing the body from the outside with fast guys.

                      it's like throwing uppercuts from outside, you can get away with it vs slower opponents but kinda leaves you open.

                      i can see pac countering it. best floyd work the body when pac gets inside.
                      Pacquiao is a damn good counter puncher but even a 38 year old Mayweather possesses the kind of speed and control of range Pacquiao hasn't seen. And again, I acknowledge that Pacquiao doesn't get much credit for his ability to counter.

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