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    Originally posted by arraamis View Post
    Clearly, you misunderstood the following ......

    "In fact, it is claimed that Ariza learned the foundations of his program from Memo. So the association existed years counting."

    Meaning that Ariza and Memo have had a long relationship and collaboration history that existed even during Ariza's tour with Team Pac.

    Floyd takes a million pictures a year with diverse personalities. Its only those that wish to conjure up a self-serving message, that some special meaning gets attached.

    How convenient!!!!

    Floyd also took a picture with ***** .... Is Floyd now a mass-murderer by association???
    How many of those "diverse" celebrities are notorious PED chemist with potential knowledge of undetectable PEDs and a history of distributing them to Olympic level athletes? Seeing as how Floyd takes "a million pictures a year" I'm sure you won't have any difficulty naming a few.
    Last edited by IR0NFIST; 04-08-2015, 10:26 PM.

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      I cant believe Leonard Ellerbe is in charge of putting together the details. He was fired just a few months ago

      I wont believe these two are going to fight until theyre both standing in the ring and the bell sounds.

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        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        Not praising marquez are you? "marquez might be older but he is FAR more intelligent of a boxer, more quicker, agile, and imo hits much harder (he knockdown pacquiao which is something bigger guys like cotto, margarito or mosley couldn't do)."

        You sure are giving alot of accolades to a person you claim is on peds. Thats called being a hypocrite. One punch knockdowns? LMAO its a accumulation of punches from pacquiao that I seen him knock people down. He doesnt just go up and hits them once and they fall down. He hits them from angles that they don't see coming from his combinatiion punching.

        Also, pacquiao only has one punched ko'd hatton. Thats it. Unless you can name another fight where pacquiao put his guy to sleep with one hit.

        And ill respond to you whenever I feel like it. You don't own this sh^t f^ckin douchebag

        i'm comparing him to maidana. compared to maidana, marquez is far more intelligent, quicker and agile, which is a NO BRAINER you dunce. and i do mention that the increased power is a result of heredia's work. marquez hits harder than maidana imo because of what heredia has been able to do for him in terms of "nutrition" and "conditioning". but we all know what it really is.

        and pacquiao does have once punch knockdown power you dunce. it's not all from accumulation either. did he not knockdown algieri with one solid punch??? did he not knockdown mosley with one solid punch??? did he not knockdown marquez 3 TIMES in their first fight in the first round with single punches????? this is what i mean by one punch power.

        and pac did KO a guy with one punch, watch his fight with sasakul. manny dropped and KO'ed sasakul with a clean straight left on the jaw. GET A CLUE!

        it really bores me trying to argue with someone who knows little like you do.
        Last edited by Divine Hammer; 04-08-2015, 10:52 PM.

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          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
          Brandon Rios was able to stop Alvarado twice yet Marquez could only drop Alvarado. Bradley was nowhere near being hurt against Marquez and Marquez is a guy who got pulled into wars with the likes of Juan Diaz and Michael Katsidis! You guys are overrating Marquez to make it seem as if the 1 punch KO wasn't as humiliating as it really was. Marquez has fought many bums in his career that he couldn't KO with one punch. Yet Ko'd the so called fighter of the decade LOL.

          Chino is a seriously underrated fighter, he was the first person to stop Ortiz when Ortiz was hot and favored to win. He's the first and only person to drop Broner. And he's a guy who's well known for being a hard hitter, much more so than Marquez is. Cotto and De La Hoya were weight drained and they are not counter punchers which is why they were not able to do what Marquez did. So stop making Marquez out to be some beast when he's obviously not.

          Your boy Manny just got suckered into a good shot from a guy who's more intelligent than he is. And now he's going up against an even bigger, faster, more technical counter puncher on May 2nd. Deal with it.
          brandon rios was able to stop alvarado because he pressured him all night. it's not marquez's style to pressure. but was brandon rios able to knockdown alvarado the way marquez did????? marquez almost one punch ko'ed alvarado out of the ring, and that's not an exaggeration either. also alvarado didn't have much left in him in the 3rd fight after all the wars he has been in back to back. also bradley himself has said that marquez's power is very strong, heavy and thudding.

          and you're talking about a pre-heredia marquez when you mention his fights with juan diaz and katsidis at 135 (btw marquez completely obliterated katsidis. all katsidis did was score a KD). after he hired heredia you can see a complete difference in terms of his conditioning and in his increase in power in the 4th fight. heredia clearly gave marquez the right "nutrition" and "conditioning" that took him to the absolute top level.

          and maidana is a mediocre slow brawler, there's no way of spinning that hahahahahahahahaa. this is the same guy who struggled with a one eyed, severely bloated, completely shot morales. this is the same guy who got beaten down convincingly by devon alexander. the same guy who couldn't even KO a chinny khan. maidana is overrated. his win against ortiz is mediocre and so is his win against hype job broner.
          Last edited by Divine Hammer; 04-08-2015, 10:55 PM.

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            Not sure of all the constant back and forth about PEDs. Both guys are being tested for the fight. USADA is a reputable agency and will make sure there's an even playing field. I've noticed some posters act like Floyd has them in their back pocket, but I highly doubt they'd stoop low enough to favor Floyd of all athletes. He'd be a prime guy they'd WANT to catch based on the hatred he gets, braggadocios behavior, etc.

            Just relax guys, we finally have the fight. All the mudslinging just looks dumb about now. Talk boxing! How does Floyd deal with Manny's angles? How does Manny deal with Floyd's right hands?

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              Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
              I read the same article.One of us is having a problem with our reading comprehension... And it ain't me.
              Exactly. Arum crying because of his previous issues with MGM...if it was that bad, then you wouldn't have had Manny sign off for this fight.

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                smart money is on Pacquiao if you're betting, hes only +180 right now, it might go even lower by fight week, hurry and place your bets people, easy money to be made.

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                  Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                  brandon rios was able to stop alvarado because he pressured him all night. it's not marquez's style to pressure. but was brandon rios able to knockdown alvarado the way marquez did????? marquez almost one punch ko'ed alvarado out of the ring, and that's not an exaggeration either. also alvarado didn't have much left in him in the 3rd fight after all the wars he has been in back to back. also bradley himself has said that marquez's power is very strong, heavy and thudding.

                  and you're talking about a pre-heredia marquez when you mention his fights with juan diaz and katsidis at 135 (btw marquez completely obliterated katsidis. all katsidis did was score a KD). after he hired heredia you can see a complete difference in terms of his conditioning and in his increase in power in the 4th fight. heredia clearly gave marquez the right "nutrition" and "conditioning" that took him to the absolute top level.

                  and maidana is a mediocre slow brawler, there's no way of spinning that hahahahahahahahaa. this is the same guy who struggled with a one eyed, severely bloated, completely shot morales. this is the same guy who got beaten down convincingly by devon alexander. the same guy who couldn't even KO a chinny khan. maidana is overrated. his win against ortiz is mediocre and so is his win against hype job broner.
                  LOL you guys try to downplay Maidana to discredit Floyd then try to uplift Marquez to make Pacquiao look like less of a loser. Marquez hadn't beaten one elite level fighter in his entire career prior to going into his fights with Manny Pacquiao. He basically made his career off being the guy to give Pacquiao problems. Maidana is bigger, stronger, and ten years younger than Marquez and all Chino could do was lose a majority decision then lose a unanimous decision to Floyd.
                  While Marquez, a fighter with no significant wins on his resume, only got more and more difficult for Pacquiao with each and every fight.

                  Say what you want about Marquez teaming up with Heredia, he passed the same drug tests Manny passed when HE was the one being accused of juicing. You're innocent until proven guilty. Face it, Manny is not a good as you guys make him out to be.
                  Last edited by Johnwoo8686; 04-08-2015, 11:13 PM.

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                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
                    LOL you guys try to downplay Maidana to discredit Floyd then try to uplift Marquez to make Pacquiao look like less of a loser. Marquez hadn't beaten one elite level fighter in his entire career prior to going into his fights with Manny Pacquiao. He basically made his career off being the guy to give Pacquiao problems. Maidana is bigger, stronger, and ten years younger than Marquez and all Chino could do was lose a majority decision then lose a unanimous decision to Floyd.
                    While Marquez, a fighter with no significant wins on his resume, only got more and more difficult for Pacquiao with each and every fight.

                    Say what you want about Marquez teaming up with Heredia, he passed the same drug tests Manny passed when HE was the one being accused of juicing. You're innocent until proven guilty. Face it, Manny is not a good as you guys make him out to be.
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                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
                    I don't know **** about boxing.

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                      Originally posted by IR0NFIST View Post

                      Speaking of Bradley, when has anybody ever come close to visibly hurting him? Excluding the Ruslan fight where he willingly threw himself into the fire, Marquez didn't have that kind of success based on the simple fact that Bradley wasn't willing to exchange, this frustrated Marquez causing him to abandon his bread and butter and be more offensive which ultimately cost him the fight.
                      Well we can obviously tell you haven't been watching boxing very long... go watch Bradley vs Holt lol(1st and 12th round Bradley got dropped). But nobodies ever come close to visibly hurting Bradley doe lmao!

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