Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[Strategic1]

Atlas making conclusions about the staredown?
Damn... doesn't he know PAC is like that every fight.

Pac had a confidence to him ...he looked genuinely excited.
While Floyd looked serious. No trash talk..just all business.

They're both professionals. They'll both bring their games tomorrow night!

[Spoon23]

Optimus prime says: One shall stand and one shall fall.

[jas]

Rewatched weigh in

Both look focused

Manny more relaxed

Final prediction: manny close points decision

[KaL-EL]

Floyd looks shook

[nubianpiye]

Both floyd and pac looked nervous and should be for a fight of this magnitude. Pacs laugh seemed a little different and he riveted more than normal and floyds intense stare was a bit out of character.

[Willthethrill]

Atlas making conclusions about the staredown?
Damn... doesn't he know PAC is like that every fight.

Pac had a confidence to him ...he looked genuinely excited.
While Floyd looked serious. No trash talk..just all business.

They're both professionals. They'll both bring their games tomorrow night!

What did atlas say?

[MrRolltide91]

The site going slow for anyone else?

Just wait till after the fight

[Hype job]

Keys to Victory (from my point of view)

Mayweather:

Gotta get Pacquiao's tempo/rhythm. Needs Manny to continue at the same pace/same rhythm throughout the fight. This will allow Floyd to effectively land his counters and make his jab more effective as he'll be able to throw it to disrupt Manny's speed

Needs to try and keep the fight in the center of the ring. Manny is less active in the middle of the ring, generally speaking. If this fight goes 12 rounds, and Manny is the one looking busier and more aggressive, he will definitely put rounds in the bank.

Get Manny's respect early. Floyd isn't a big puncher, but he needs to land something hard early to make Manny think. Remember, Pacquiao isn't an overly aggressive fighter (despite what you might hear), he's explosive and fights in spurts. Making Manny think and become less confident, allows the fight to be fought at Floyd's pace instead of Manny's

Pacquiao:

You have to find a way to hide the left hand. Manny has a natural ability to move himself subtly into position to land his left hand when his opponent least expects it. He needs to always be aware of where he is in the ring, and only take risks when he feels confident in landing the shot. Hiding his left hand is crucial in winning rounds, and making Floyd less confident in his counters

Sneaky left hand: FF to 33:29


Pacquiao also has to alter his rhythm. He needs to have a gameplan that maintains a disruptive tempo. Try and avoid doing the same things over and over. This plays into Mayweather's hands and allows him to get a bead on your patterns, which will certainly put the fight in Floyd's favor.

Manny needs to counter Floyd's jab. Manny slips and counters the jab of an orthodox fighter very well with head movement and quick feet. Floyd doesn't throw a consistent jab, so it'll be difficult to time it but this will be very important in making Floyd more hesitant to throw. He needs to be aware of where his lead foot is at all times and also try to predict when the jab is coming. Floyd has a tell when he throws the straight right hand, but he doesn't have the same give-away when throwing his jab.

just my thoughts. Al Bernstein can use my keys to victory if he wants

Algieri should have been counted out in the 1st KD round 9.

[Golden Boi 360]

Ring, Andreas Hale

As hardcore fight fans, we’ve all been there before…

You’re at a fight party and excited to see how the main event plays out. As an avid fight fan, you map out all of the scenarios that may possibly take place. Because you study the sweet science, you have a pretty good grasp on tendencies, what strategies are likely to be deployed and how the fighters match up with one another. You know your stuff. Unfortunately, the party you are at is filled with people who know nothing about boxing and are only here to see somebody get knocked out. And if that doesn’t happen they complain about how the sport you love is dead and boring. More importantly, they’ll never pay for another pay-per-view fight again.

And that really pisses you off because you know how difficult it is for any big fight to live up to the hype.

People who only watch boxing when Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Manny Pacquiao are in the ring have predictions that are based on nonsense with little to no deductive reasoning. For instance, Mayweather is undefeated so, to the casual viewer, he’s supposed to knock everyone out when they watch a PPV. The same goes for Pacquiao. As a matter of fact, every fight that doesn’t end in a knockout is labeled as “boring.” More often than not, they have never heard of the opponent and could care less how styles make fights. For the most part, they find something to complain about by the time the night is over. Defend the sport all you want, but nobody is trying to hear it and your night is ruined by arguing with people who refuse to accept that they know nothing about the sport.

At a fight party, you are surrounded by these people and grow increasingly annoyed with their presence.

Think of Mayweather-Pacquiao as one huge fight party that has lasted for the past five years and is finally reaching its culmination on Saturday night. If you have endured the ignorance, uninformed opinions and ridiculous spewed by celebrities, sports columnists who have NEVER covered the sport, casual viewers, friends, family, radio personalities, neighbors, barbers, flight attendants, bank tellers, supermarket cashiers, mailmen and so on for the past half decade, congratulations. But on Saturday night, the volume of boxing ignorance will be cranked up to a Spinal Tap level 11 and you better buckle up for the impact.

It’s not going to be pretty.

Everyone is an expert when it comes to Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Their allegiances are based on extraordinarily basic logic that has very little to do with how the fighter performs. But, as Roger Mayweather often says, they don’t know **** about boxing. People who have never watched more than five professional fights will concoct the most asinine reasons why their fighter will win. And none of it ever makes sense. It’s frustrating for the hardcore fight fans who can analyze and break down a fight and its numerous scenarios. A hardcore fan might still be wrong because boxing has an unpredictable element where any fight can end with one punch. But we accept it because we understand it. But what makes it worse when it comes to the casual fan is that there’s always a chance their prediction may be right because there aren’t really a whole lot of winning scenarios. It’s like a math problem where they guess the answer but have no idea how to show their work. A fight is simple to the untrained eye. But boxing? Boxing is complex with an extraordinary amount of nuances that earns its title “The Sweet Science.”

Have you ever tried to have a discussion with a casual fan about boxing? It’s like explaining trigonometry to a 4-year-old. The worst part is that they will never care long enough to understand and will spew the most nonsensical rhetoric back at you. Try and explain Mayweather’s style and the beauty in it and see where that goes. He’ll just be called boring. Pacquiao hasn’t knocked anybody out since Miguel Cotto so he isn’t any good now, right? Go ahead and attempt to explain why Mayweather and Pacquiao didn’t fight five years ago and watch their faces try to make sense out of it all. See? It doesn’t compute. To be honest, it never really computed with us either, but we kind of understood the politics. Nobody else cares about politics, styles or any of what goes into a fight. Exciting fights and knockouts; anything else is unacceptable.

Good times!

Boxing is a unique sport that doesn’t have seasons and most high-level fighters don’t compete more than four times a year. Their visibility to the general public is relatively low thanks to many of their fights being on premium channels and pay per view (which can hopefully shift thanks to Premier Boxing Champions invading network television). As a result, the sample size is small and nobody cares to do his or her homework. To them, boxing is a fight and a fight is all about knocking somebody out. If that doesn’t happen, the fight is horrible.

This is what you’re in for on Saturday night. When a fight reaches this magnitude, everyone is watching. Outlets that do not have regular boxing coverage are flooded with a bunch of people who are all of a sudden experts on the sport. The hype is through the roof. You can’t get away from it. As fight fans, this is what we wanted. We’ve always wanted the sport we love to go mainstream. But the problem is that our Super Bowl happens once or twice a generation. After that, those people, television shows, websites and radio outlets go back to a place where boxing barely exists. The peaks are ridiculously high while valleys are abysmally low for an extended period of time.

As a hardcore fight fan, you are praying that this fight surprisingly lives up to the hype. But if conventional wisdom plays out and Mayweather wins a “boring” decision, the “boxing is dead” chants will be *****eted through every social media network, television show, radio broadcast and public area. The only scenario that could please everyone to some degree is a knockout.

Chances are, it won’t happen. And you’ll be left to explain to everyone why it wasn’t the bar room brawl that they unwittingly expected. Even if you aren’t happy with how the fight played out, you still won’t let an outsider slander its name. Boxing is like your family and only you can talk bad about it with your siblings (i.e. other boxing fans). An outsider’s opinion isn’t welcome. Unfortunately, they will all converge on Saturday night and talk loudly about something they don’t know much about.

It’s our worst nightmare as hardcore fight fans. Don’t fret, it will all be over soon and maybe, if we’re lucky, the outsiders will finally have something good to say about the sport we love. If not, there’s always the next generation.

Good read.

[TheBoxingfan101]

just watched the froch floyd interview on SSN loool

floyd gave froch props