Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

I hope excessive clinching will not ruin this fight. Floyd will use that to the hilt and make it really impossible for free flowing exchanges. This is boxing not hugging, just like basketball is not a street fight.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

That's pretty fucking awesome.

Someone already posted it and somehow it got deleted, Flowmos on their high hills and pompoms cheering on how Floyd really want this fight but the fact that a simpleton waiter got Floyd in the corner.

here's the article, fellas

For one West Hollywood waiter, his grand dream has been realized by the making of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s long-awaited fight with Manny Pacquiao.

Last year, Gabriel Salvador, a waiter at Craig's restaurant in West Hollywood, reconnected with Leslie Moonves, the chief executive CBS Corp. who frequented the establishment. Salvador's teenage son receives boxing lessons from Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach.

"Every tree starts with a seed, correct?" Salvador said. "I just knew, with no doubt, that if I brought Freddie Roach to Leslie Moonves, those two men could make the fight happen.

"I'm the finder."




During the times that Salvador handled Moonves' table, the men bonded over their love of boxing.

Then, at Roach's Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood, Salvador made a bold statement.

"I think I can make this fight happen," Salvador told Roach. "I talk to Leslie every time he comes in, we have a great rapport. I trust you with my son. Give me the benefit of trust."

From there, Salvador told Moonves, "You're the king of making things happen. I'll bring Freddie Roach to you," setting up a meeting in June at a Beverly Hills hotel.


Salvador said that Roach and Moonves discussed obstacles preventing a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight and Roach said "I'll talk to Manny. Manny wants this fight to happen." Moonves agreed to speak to Mayweather, who has two fights remaining on his contract with the CBS-owned Showtime cable network.

"Once that meeting happened, you have what you have now, the greatest trainer of all time seeing what his fighter can do against Mr. Undefeated," Salvador said.

When Mayweather announced the fight Friday, to take place May 2 in Las Vegas, people praised Moonves for succeeding where others had failed. All the efforts since 2009 to put together a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout had collapsed for various reasons, but mostly over personality conflicts.

Moonves got involved with some sore feelings at Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum, who put one Pacquiao fight on Showtime during a leadership change at HBO, then returned to HBO.

"You're going to have to deal with Bob," Roach told Moonves. "Manny just signed a new contract with him."

Roach arranged an October meeting between Moonves and Arum at the promoter's Beverly Hills home that ended with the the men exiting arm in arm, Roach said.

Stephen Espinoza, a Showtime executive vice president who had been involved in failed fight negotiations, said, "When we look at the history of these negotiations and ask why this one was different, the obvious answer was Leslie. I don't think he had a doubt in his mind that this deal would close.

"He was really the catalyst for seeing this through, and refused to take no for an answer from any side."


Moonves had acted in good faith and paid Mayweather than $30 million for four fights, three of which didn't deserve that kind of money.

Arum, whose promotional work started with Muhammad Ali, respected Moonves' business acumen in leading a television network powerhouse.

Moonves pushed Mayweather, his manager Al Haymon and Arum to embrace a shared goal.

"Both sides realized how important this fight would be," Moonves said.

At one point, Moonves had Arum and Haymon at his home, describing the session as "fine, very respectful, with a lot getting accomplished in those two hours."



"You have a lot of strong personalities involved in this thing. These negotiations are always tough, but I'm not in unfamiliar territory. I've obviously done a lot of big negotiations with entertainment shows, with the NFL. I've never been in anything quite as complex and tricky as this."

Said Espinoza: "The sheer number of issues — the boxers, the promoters, the networks — there was a time in looking at it, I thought it'd be too much to overcome."

Part of the deal involved a joint pay-per-view broadcast with Moonves' rival, HBO.

Moonves and HBO Chairman Richard Plepler were in agreement on the need for a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

"We're arch-enemies, but they're good guys over there. It's a true partnership," Moonves said.

Keeping with Roach's promise, Pacquiao accepted Mayweather's push for a 60-40 purse split and a drug-testing plan that he'd balked at previously.

Then, late last month, Mayweather looked across courtside at a Miami Heat game and saw Pacquiao. The two met later at Pacquiao's suite and came away convinced that each wanted the bout.

That "certainly greased the wheels in getting through the final stages of the process," Espinoza said.

Mayweather-Pacquiao is expected to shatter pay-per-view and live-gate records, with ringside seats at $5,000 apiece and the pay-per-view expected to be in the $100 range.

"The sky is the limit. This event has a scale and stature we may never see again," Espinoza said.

Moonves plans to be ringside, and Salvador said he'll be there too, part of a "finder's fee."

"I'm sitting in the front row, right next to Mr. Moonves," Salvador said.

[D4thincarnation]

I hope excessive clinching will not ruin this fight. Floyd will use that to the hilt and make it really impossible for free flowing exchanges. This is boxing not hugging, just like basketball is not a street fight.

Yes, it is ruining the sport.

It is shocking to see when two fighter at mid range and one fighter would just jump on the other fighter initiating the clinch and then you get some idiots on here saying that is boxing

[Aristocrat]

[johnm is...]

Clinching is not allowed, it is a tactic used, but if you just clinch and not fight, you get points deducted and even DQed.

If you like clinching and hugging so much maybe UFC is more your sport.

And putting your glove over an opponent mouth and nose so they can't breath is also not apart of boxing.

The Diva Floyd got what he deserves and cried around like a baby over a little bit.

Lucky Bayless was there to protect him.

I didn't say I liked it, goofy. I said it's a part of the sport. It happens in every fight. Biting doesn't. Reading comprehension at it's finest.

If you like crying like a girl so much, maybe Soap Operas are your thing.

[johnm is...]

Someone already posted it and somehow it got deleted, Flowmos on their high hills and pompoms cheering on how Floyd really want this fight but the fact that a simpleton waiter got Floyd in the corner.

You're pretty ******, kiddo. The waiter didn't have anything to do with Floyd.

[D4thincarnation]

I didn't say I liked it, goofy. I said it's a part of the sport. It happens in every fight. Biting doesn't. Reading comprehension at it's finest.

If you like crying like a girl so much, maybe Soap Operas are your thing.

Yes, and it is against the rules of the game. You do realise this don't you?

And if you put your hand in someone mouth, expect to be bitten. What a C**t that Floyd is.

Why would you defend a ***** move like that.

If someone is grappling with you and trying to suffocate you with a hand over your mouth and nose, are you going to let them do it?

[IMDAZED]

You're pretty ******, kiddo. The waiter didn't have anything to do with Floyd.

John..the ignore button. Let me tell you...it's amazing.

[D4thincarnation]

John..the ignore button. Let me tell you...it's amazing.

Floyd used it for 5 years on Pacquiao

[johnm is...]

Yes, and it is against the rules of the game. You do realise this don't you?

And if you put your hand in someone mouth, expect to be bitten. What a C**t that Floyd is.

Why would you defend a ***** move like that.

If someone is grappling with you and trying to suffocate you with a hand over your mouth and nose, are you going to let them do it?

Yes, I know it's against the rules. But that doesn't make it less a part of the sport. I don't like it. I don't agree with it. But it is allowed.

You're acting like it's a foregone conclusion that he's going to clinch Pacquiao excessively. When he beats little Pacquiao in the middle of the ring, what are you excuses going to be?