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GGG is so good that the only person people bring up to beat him is Andre Ward....

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    #71
    Originally posted by just the facts View Post
    why would any promoter go through the time and expense to put together a offer for a fight team GGG has made clear they don't want?
    You make an offer, they pass, you move on to another guy. Happens all the time, stop your excuses. But Ward can't even get himself paid for the tuneups he wants before facing top comp.

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      #72
      Originally posted by AKAcronym View Post
      And when you have nothing, always go to the hypothetical agenda. We see where your head is at.
      Like it or not boxing promoters only concern is the bottom dollar. Money is a religion to them. Again, no boxing promoter is going through the time and expense to secure a site, set up negotiations with the fighters, set up tv rights, etc for a fight team GGG has made clear they don't want. It's that simple. If team GGG said they wanted this fight a promoter would put together a HBO double header highlighting both fighters vs good competition. After both won, it's time for 24/7, PPV and all that goes with it. Problem is team GGG said maybe down the road

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        #73
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        Come on, Chavez backed out because of Arum's contract, not fear of Golovkin. I don't think much of JCC Jr, I think he lost some fights, including to a journeyman Brian Vera, and the Sebastian Zbik fight was not a clear win. I don't know how Chavez Jr not fighting GGG changes anything, he's not that good. What does beating Chavez Jr prove? That's about as good or worse than beating Geale.

        Froch wants nothing to do with GGG? just because of a tongue in cheek comment which he admitted himself was just messing around about it.

        Fighters move up to establish themselves in a higher weight as well, and make a name for themselves, make noise. He doesn't have to go up for a big fight right off the bat. Everyone at 168 would fight him if he actually moves up. Why make an offer to some one who's not a draw and has no title in their weight class?
        Agree Chavez is no great shakes but he's the only guy whose promoter made an offer to GGG, which he promptly signed. I don't care about his Arum excuses, he's not seeing that type of money soon, not even close.

        Here's Frochs clarification. I think its fair to say he has no interest:

        "It was tongue in cheek back then. I was being a bit cheeky and you can take those comments with a pinch of salt. What I will say though is this guy can ****ing punch: he's dangerous and if he can be avoided we'll avoid him. "

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          #74
          Originally posted by just the facts View Post
          Like it or not boxing promoters only concern is the bottom dollar. Money is a religion to them. Again, no boxing promoter is going through the time and expense to secure a site, set up negotiations with the fighters, set up tv rights, etc for a fight team GGG has made clear they don't want. It's that simple. If team GGG said they wanted this fight a promoter would put together a HBO double header highlighting both fighters vs good competition. After both won, it's time for 24/7, PPV and all that goes with it. Problem is team GGG said maybe down the road
          Both fighters have said they would fight right now-and don't refer to that video of GGG saying "too much" either. Dontae interviewed him recently and Golovkin said he is ready. It's obviously all up to the promoters so it doesn't matter what both fighters have said. Dre needs a couple tune-ups, per Hunter, and Golovkin would hopefully get a PPV name before Ward so that fight could really begin to make sense. You can't take one guys side when he's said something then discredit the other guy for saying the exact same thing. It's just that, talk; for better or for worse. You either take stock in what both of them have said, or you discredit them both.

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            #75
            Originally posted by just the facts View Post
            Like it or not boxing promoters only concern is the bottom dollar. Money is a religion to them. Again, no boxing promoter is going through the time and expense to secure a site, set up negotiations with the fighters, set up tv rights, etc for a fight team GGG has made clear they don't want. It's that simple. If team GGG said they wanted this fight a promoter would put together a HBO double header highlighting both fighters vs good competition. After both won, it's time for 24/7, PPV and all that goes with it. Problem is team GGG said maybe down the road
            No, Abel Sanchez has been saying for months, Ward if you want the fight, stop posturing and make an offer, at least talk to Loeffler. Nothing. Why? Maybe Ward is not reluctant to fight GGG, but no interest in boxing anymore?

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              #76
              I also want to see the fight because I really do believe that Golovkin has the best chance, not Kovalev, not Stevenson but Golovkin despite being smaller than those other two.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
                Gennady Golovkin has been a pro for 9 years and his best win is Daniel Geale.

                /thread
                And Ward's best win is Froch who avoids GGG "like the plague".

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                  #78
                  Guys like you make it hard for guys like me who are rational GGG fans. Yes GGG is the best fighter in his weightclass without a doubt on earth. But to say he beats Ward "easily" is a farce. These are two of the very best fighters on the planet, it's a pickem fight and one that makes my mouth water.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by PulpFriction View Post
                    GGG outsold your lover boy Chavez jr. at the stubhub center. It's obv you have a racial agenda but unfortunately for you GGG isn't going anywhere and his popularity will continue to grow.
                    FACT: Chavez has sold more PPVs than the Triple Duck...

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                      FACT: Chavez has sold more PPVs than the Triple Duck...
                      plus he's fought better comp.

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