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    Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
    If that's true, then basically Floyd is hiding behind SHO. I really hope that's not the case. I don't think SHO wants their fighter to say he won't commit to a Pacquiao fight unless SHO gets a "fair deal". Floyd does not and should not know SHO's business. He just needs to know his guaranteed purse and the final PPV buys!
    If it comes out that SHO/HBO were able to come to an agreement but Mayweather didn't approve it then he deserves all the crap in the world. Word was though they had a dispute over delay replay rights and that would have to do with more than just Mayweather not being pleased.

    So still premature to put the blame on him.

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      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Like I said, Arum has been badmouthing him throughout the process. Soon as Floyd says something you think he's looking for a way out. But you wanna call someone biased. Right.
      I'm biased towards wanting this fight to actually happen. Arum may have been badmouthing Floyd, but at least what Bob has said about the negotiating through Moonves and that HBO-SHO are meeting have been accurate. Floyd has every right to comeback at Arum, but talking about the negotiations while HBO and SHO are in talks isn't very smart. The last thing they want is for him to change his terms at the last minute.

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        Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
        If it comes out that SHO/HBO were able to come to an agreement but Mayweather didn't approve it then he deserves all the crap in the world. Word was though they had a dispute over delay replay rights and that would have to do with more than just Mayweather not being pleased.

        So still premature to put the blame on him.
        If you were the parent companies CBS & Time Warner, would you let your children SHO & HBO kill the most lucrative PPV event in history over "delayed rights"???? LOL Absolutely not!

        So if the fight doesn't happen, it's safe to say Floyd had something to do with it. The sad thing is that we'll never know the truth because, CBS & SHO will have to protect Floyd's image, if he backs out. They have no choice but to cover for their cash cow! Can't badmouth their own product.

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          Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
          I'm biased towards wanting this fight to actually happen. Arum may have been badmouthing Floyd, but at least what Bob has said about the negotiating through Moonves and that HBO-SHO are meeting have been accurate. Floyd has every right to comeback at Arum, but talking about the negotiations while HBO and SHO are in talks isn't very smart. The last thing they want is for him to change his terms at the last minute.
          Everything you're whining about Floyd doing...Arum was already doing. I get it, you want to blame Floyd. Admit it and move on.

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            Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
            If you were the parent companies CBS & Time Warner, would you let your children SHO & HBO kill the most lucrative PPV event in history over "delayed rights"???? LOL Absolutely not!

            So if the fight doesn't happen, it's safe to say Floyd had something to do with it. The sad thing is that we'll never know the truth because, CBS & SHO will have to protect Floyd's image, if he backs out. They have no choice but to cover for their cash cow! Can't badmouth their own product.
            True, but you can read between the lines. No one from Sho or Mooves has said Arum is presenting obstacles. Theres a reason. Because he obviously isn't doing this.

            Floyd has his lovers here, but it just strange they are getting so angry and uptight that most people believe Floyd probably does not want this fight, considering all the details.

            In an odd way, I kinda feel bad for Floyd. The dude doesn't want to fight Pac, but is being hounded and dogged. He is obviously quite distressed by all this. Even if we all want it, at the end of the day if he feels Manny is dangerous, feels he doesn't want the fight, he should be able to bow out without being forced to fight.

            I don't even really care, I just find it strange his fans can get so mad when the truth is seems very obvious. Of course, perhaps this is not the case, but like I said, it sure seems like. Don't know how anyone could say it doesn't seem like Floyd doesn't want the fight. Sure, its possible things are not as they seem, but not likely from where I sit.

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              Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
              If you were the parent companies CBS & Time Warner, would you let your children SHO & HBO kill the most lucrative PPV event in history over "delayed rights"???? LOL Absolutely not!

              So if the fight doesn't happen, it's safe to say Floyd had something to do with it. The sad thing is that we'll never know the truth because, CBS & SHO will have to protect Floyd's image, if he backs out. They have no choice but to cover for their cash cow! Can't badmouth their own product.
              You realize there is more more money in the delayed rights then the actual PPV itself right?

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                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Everything you're whining about Floyd doing...Arum was already doing. I get it, you want to blame Floyd. Admit it and move on.
                Not whining at all. Don't get upset, bro. Just stating what Arum said was accurate. If Floyd is impeding the SHO-HBO negotiations, then it's a problem. Arum & Pac are just pressuring Floyd through the media and Floyd is responding. But his responses haven't been very smart. Let's just hope he signs.

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                  Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
                  Not whining at all. Don't get upset, bro. Just stating what Arum said was accurate. If Floyd is impeding the SHO-HBO negotiations, then it's a problem. Arum & Pac are just pressuring Floyd through the media and Floyd is responding. But his responses haven't been very smart. Let's just hope he signs.
                  Not upset. Just listening to you go in circles. You said Floyd talking jeopardized negotiations. Arum has been trash talking. Therefore it stands that Arum was already jeopardizing it, using your logic. But you don't think so because you're biased and want to blame Floyd regardless. To the point where you're having a conversation with someone else blaming Floyd for something he never even said . I get it man. Just own it and move on.

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                    Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
                    Not whining at all. Don't get upset, bro. Just stating what Arum said was accurate. If Floyd is impeding the SHO-HBO negotiations, then it's a problem. Arum & Pac are just pressuring Floyd through the media and Floyd is responding. But his responses haven't been very smart. Let's just hope he signs.
                    How do you know its accurate , you got inside guys saying Arum is lying .

                    The truth is you believe what you want to believe and reject what you want to reject , fact is none of us know whats going on for real .

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                      Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View Post
                      You realize there is more more money in the delayed rights then the actual PPV itself right?
                      I'm curious how you know this. Lewis-Tyson made over $100 million in gross PPV revenue. Can you prove that the replays alone generated more than $100 million since June of 2002?

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