Broner is smart. It wasn't about the money, duplicate topic banned

[bojangles1987]

Actually when you think about it that offer was insulting. Maybe everyone doesn't take the time to think hard about it. Why would he lock himself up to Jay Z for 5 years? Even if he's not going to make that much money, it's not an ideal situation. You guys are right. I haven't seen any boxing contracts like that. All that would do is make him Jay Z's *****.

I think he has aspirations is being a PPV star like Canelo is trying to be soon when Mayweather retires. Someone will have to carry the torch. I agree he's not that talented as he thought. But what if he works harder at what he failed at and becomes the next star up? It would be insulting because eventually he could be to the point where he'd make 8 mil a fight or more. Signing with Jay Z now means he wouldn't even have the opportunity to try and become that kind of star. He'd just be Jay Z's ***** until he was done with the contract. It's like serving a jail sentence and being paid for it. But having no control over the work you do. He'd have to fight whoever Jay Z set up for him until the contract was done. Its not an ideal move.

He makes decent money now. And he's trying to cash out now and land a big fight. I think he has to take a risk and fight someone like a Maidana or a Matthsye or Garcia. If he can somehow secure one of those fights and win, this is where the campaign of being a PPV star can start. The same thing can be said about Keith Thurman. It would be foolish for these fighters who plan on being stars to lock themselves up. 1 or 2 solid fights and they are in line to be stars.

If you haven't seen boxing contracts that lock guys up for 5 years, then you haven't paid any attention.

[bojangles1987]

I swear, if you start paying attention to posters who talk about business a lot, you start to notice they don't actually have any clue what they're talking about.

[bojangles1987]

Broner can make 40 million dollars in 2 fights easy.

Broner vs Pac= 15 Million for Broner
Broner vs Floyd=15 Million for Broner

That's 40 million right there. Why would he need Jay z?

Might want to check your math there. And pay attention to what guys actually get paid to fight Mayweather and Pacquiao.

[Fighting_Pride]

broner just can't get his head outta his ass. he's the most overrated boxer there is today. he doesn't have the power to stop any of the big names. doesn't have the pull of the fans. doesn't even have a belt for fucks' sake. maidana must've hit him so hard broner has lost a few screws in the head


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[TheWinners]

You must have got your diploma from the Al Haymon school of boxing...
The Kid turned down $4 million a fight over 10 fights for 5 years.. He won't make half that with Haymon fighting bum after bum, which he will be doing for a while.
Al Haymon must be a killer cause these dudes are running away from big money to stay with his azz.... Broner vs TBA coming in March...enjoy...

I don't see why you don't understand that that contract cripples his earning potential and flexibility as a fighter. What if within those 10 fights, say the 5th fight, he becomes a unified belt holder. Lets say Jay Z makes huge fights for him. Lets just say as an example he eventually fights Mayweather, Pacquiao, Danny Garcia, Amir Kahn and Lucas Matthsye, how much money do you think those fights are worth? I know the example is to the extreme but it's just an illustration.

If he signs to fight 2 fights a year and he gets these fights, he'd be getting robbed. And he'd be locking himself up in a contract crippling his earning potential if he becomes a star. He's already known by quite a few people. If he wins the right fights, its not hard for AB to become a PPV attraction. In fact since everyone " compares " him to Mayweather due to his flashy attitude, **** talking, and shoulder roll, it's a good time for him to try to become the next hated star.

Now what if he does and has the opportunity to make even a quarter of what Mayweather has made per fight? No he'd be locked up in a contract making the same amount for the next 5 years. It's an insult to a guy who wants to be a star and PPV attraction. Andre Ward didn't have much of a choice. As good as he is, and he is clearly one of the best, he's not really an attraction right now. More general fans know who Broner is, they probably have no idea who Ward is. He cant even sell out in his own hometown.

Boxing needs guys like Broner assuming he actually performs and wins fights. Negative publicity is what sells. It gets peoples attention. That's how Mayweather takes advantage of the US. People watch the guy because they want to watch him lose because he's ****y and talks ****. If you had a bunch of blue collar boxers, how is that good for boxing?

So I believe in the future Broner could actually, and Im not giving it too high of a percentage, but he could actually become the next PPV star. Same with Thurman. He has a style that could make him a PPV star. He gets lots of KOs so far. He boast of his power and skills. And if he wants he can start saying a bunch of dumb **** to make people hate him and want him to lose. If these guys sign these contracts it's basically an insult. Its like they're saying " I know for a fact I wont ever be a big star in the sport so I'll take what I can get ". It's an insult to a fighter who definitely has the potential to make more than 40 million over 5 years. These guys are marketable and have a shot to make more than that.

[TheWinners]

I swear, if you start paying attention to posters who talk about business a lot, you start to notice they don't actually have any clue what they're talking about.

How many of those contracts have a predetermined amount the fighters make over a period of time? Or isn't each contract for each fight worked out differently? For instance lets say Bob Arum signs Pacquiao for a 2 year deal. Does Pacquiao have a predetermined amount he makes or a percentage he has to pay to Arum?

I know I just seen Mayweather sign a large contract to Showtime for a number of fights. But if Im not mistaken I don't think those fights have a predetermined amount he makes for each fight. In fact it depends on revenue of the fight is that right?

I mean Im no expert. But I've been watching boxing and I haven't seen lots of fighters lock themselves up for a predetermined amount of fights and a predetermined amount of money.

[Psylence83]

Stop comparing a deal that would make Broner a huge amount of money, more than 99% of boxers could ever dream of, to slavery. You sound like an idiot.

This......!!!!!!!

[Check_hooks]

If you wanna compare this to slavery than read what is in the contract when you sign with Al Haymon

Thats real slavery right there

No minimum purse per fight and no minimum fights per year. No endorsements without approval by Al Haymon.

Haymon can bench you for as long as he wants and theres nothing you can do about it. Robert Guerrerro went over a year without fighting for no reason

[mathed]

Broner knows that 40 Million is probably going to be as much as he would ever make(probably more). He knows this. He already said that's not why he rejected the offer. He rejected it because he would have been Jay Z's slave for 5 years. Fighting 4x times a year. That's 20 brutal health ending fights. Jay Z would probably force Broner to go up against a literal gauntlet of hard punchers and than force him to move up to 154 and maybe even 160 against GGG. It's not even cowardly to refuse at being a slave.

Broner can make 40 million and die at age 30
or
25-35 million and live a happy life all the way until he's like 90.

Common sense.

But he said he is already planning on fighting 4 times alone this year and he is already a "slave" to Hymen. And a guy with a moniker "About Billions" isn't about money?

[Unseen]

The thing is, most fighters have contracts that last years.