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    #31
    he still couldnt believe a brown midget could do that

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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Cotto fights like he fought against Pacquiao pretty much all the time. And yet who has battered him like that?
      Cotto hasn't fought anyone even near as fast as Pacquiao since. Ask Rios about Pacquiao's speed, he talks about it like it's other-worldly.

      A shady Margarito.So regardless it was a huge win for Pacquiao and impressive for how he did it. There were times where he backed into the ropes, covered up and could be seen grinning as he let Cotto pound to his body. He ate a killer left hook in the 7th that would've floored a whole lot of cats. He hasn't looked as powerful since. Not even close and it isn't because people stopped coming forward. He's still hitting them. A lot.
      You're describing punch resistance, not power. Reality is he was never that powerful at welter weight, he was just unbelievably fast and still is.

      Guys he fought post 2010 like Marquez, Bradley and Mosley all moved backwards around the ring away from him once they realised they couldn't hang toe to toe.
      Last edited by Weebler I; 11-22-2014, 01:45 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
        Cotto hasn't fought anyone even near as fast as Pacquiao since. Ask Rios about Pacquiao's speed, he talks about it like it's other-worldly.



        You're describing punch resistance, not power. Reality is he was never that powerful at welter weight, he was just unbelievably fast and still is.

        Guys he fought post 2010 like Marquez, Bradley and Mosley all moved backwards around the ring away from him once they realised they couldn't hang.
        So what? Margarito was slow and he hit Cotto with everything. Stop making excuses. Even Pacquiao's team is acknowledging his loss of power with this move down.

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          #34
          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          So what? Margarito was slow and he hit Cotto with everything. Stop making excuses. Even Pacquiao's team is acknowledging his loss of power with this move down.
          This post makes no sense whatsoever.

          We're not talking a move down, we're talking Paulie's claim that Pacquiao lost power in the last few years, while boxing at '47.

          It's nonsense, Pacquiao was never a KO artist at WW and the stoppage wins have been harder to come by because most of his recent opponents run (move, box or whatever you want to call it), just like Algieri will.

          Put Pacquao in against come forward guys like Maidana, Porter, Guerrero and they'd either get the De La Hoya, Cotto, Margo treatment or cover up and hide like Clottey.

          Styles maketh fights.
          Last edited by Weebler I; 11-22-2014, 01:59 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
            This post makes no sense whatsoever.

            We're not talking a move down, we're talking Paulie's claim that Pacquiao lost power in the last few years, while boxing at '47.

            It's nonsense, Pacquiao was never a KO artist at WW and the stoppage wins have been harder to come by because most of his recent opponents run (move or whatever you want to call it), just like Algieri will.

            Put him in against come forward guys like Maidana, Porter, Guerrero and they'd either get the De La Hoya, Cotto, Margo treatment or cover up and hide like Clottey.
            You said Cotto hasn't seen speed like Pacquiao's since. So what? You can be fast but if you aren't powerful, you aren't going to do what Manny did to him. Margarito wasn't fast. So that's not it. First you said Cotto got beat up like that because he came forward (like he's never done that before). Now it's speed. Stop making excuses. Pacquiao was just very powerful that night. Period. And hasn't looked like that since.

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              #36
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              You said Cotto hasn't seen speed like Pacquiao's since. So what? You can be fast but if you aren't powerful, you aren't going to do what Manny did to him. Margarito wasn't fast. So that's not it. First you said Cotto got beat up like that because he came forward (like he's never done that before). Now it's speed. Stop making excuses. Pacquiao was just very powerful that night. Period. And hasn't looked like that since.
              He looked like that against Margarito after Cotto, broke his orbital bone and blitzed him.

              Why? because Margarito came forward and Pacquiao was too fast for him, just like Cotto, De La Hoya and Hatton.

              All this Pacquiao has lost power nonsense is just that, nonsense. Like I said, put him in with come forward guys like Guerrero, Maidana, Porter and people would be saying he's got power back again, when in reality nothing changed except the approach of the opposition.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                You said Cotto hasn't seen speed like Pacquiao's since. So what? You can be fast but if you aren't powerful, you aren't going to do what Manny did to him. Margarito wasn't fast. So that's not it. First you said Cotto got beat up like that because he came forward (like he's never done that before). Now it's speed. Stop making excuses. Pacquiao was just very powerful that night. Period. And hasn't looked like that since.
                he was fighting cotto. cotto doesn't have the best chin/durability now does he? floyd hasn't looked as powerful since fighting ortiz what a surprise!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                  He looked like that against Margarito after Cotto, broke his orbital bone and blitzed him.

                  Why? because Margarito came forward and Pacquiao was too fast for him, just like Cotto, De La Hoya and Hatton.

                  All this Pacquiao has lost power nonsense is just that, nonsense. Like I said, put him in with come forward guys like Guerrero, Maidana, Porter and people would be saying he's got power again, when in reality nothing changed except the approach of the opposition.
                  The Margarito fight is pretty much the last time we saw Manny's vaunted power. It didn't happen all at once right after Cotto. That was the crescendo moment but the slope downward began after.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                    He looked like that against Margarito after Cotto, broke his orbital bone and blitzed him.

                    Why? because Margarito came forward and Pacquiao was too fast for him, just like Cotto, De La Hoya and Hatton.

                    All this Pacquiao has lost power nonsense is just that, nonsense. Like I said, put him in with come forward guys like Guerrero, Maidana, Porter and people would be saying he's got power back again, when in reality nothing changed except the approach of the opposition.
                    What was Rios for fucks sake? What was Bradley's approach in the rematch? Did Bradley not find himself on the ropes, did Pacquiao not load up with the same combinations that dismantled a considerably bigger and stronger Miguel Cotto? Do you really pay attention to what your watching?

                    Also, straight out of Tim's mouth, he said Pacquiao didn't hit as hard as he did in the first fight. I would guess he's lying as well right?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                      What was Rios for fucks sake? What was Bradley's approach in the rematch? Did Bradley not find himself on the ropes, did Pacquiao not load up with the same combinations that dismantled a considerably bigger and stronger Miguel Cotto? Do you really pay attention to what your watching?

                      Also, straight out of Tim's mouth, he said Pacquiao didn't hit as hard as he did in the first fight. I would guess he's lying as well right?
                      bradley didn't even get hit in the first fight so how would he know about pacs power? that was a boxing masterclass.

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